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By tadog
Date 01.07.12 13:19 UTC
Does your vet think the breathing problems are due to L/p?
By JeanSW
Date 01.07.12 17:20 UTC
>Does your vet think the breathing problems are due to L/p?
Yes, he scoped her on Friday and confirmed.

Its not the same Jean but if its any consolation, my LB bitch was 13 when she had her tie back last year and she also suffered from bronchitis and LP, but she was fine with the op. Our vet said to take her in just before they finished their first op in surgery rather than kennel her and keep her waiting for them to finish that op and I walked her in and they took her in straight away so she didnt get chance to get stressed.
She came round very quickly after the op and he rang me to go and get her before she started getting anxious again as he knew she would be fine at home. So as soon as he was happy with her, I removed her before she howled the place down. :)
I hope somebody with a small dog can help you. Our vet did say it seems more common in medium to large breeds rather than small breeds for some reason.
By tadog
Date 01.07.12 19:39 UTC
Justine my vet was the same, he wanted my bitch to get home with me asap after he felt she could safely be moved as it reduced her stressing.
unfortunatly due to my bitch being on steroids it has compromised her healing process and her wound is not healing as we would have hoped. will have to see how she is tomorrow.

Aww hope you get on ok.
Remi did need anti bios and anti inflamms for 2 weeks as the swelling inside her throat did stay up for abit longer but the outside wound was good. After that she turned the corner and was much better. She even managed to bark a little again, albeit sounding like a seal :)
By Haroll
Date 01.07.12 20:22 UTC
Hi Jean, just wanted to say hope all goes well with your dog. It's not nice and my dog was in for 4 days due to pancreas problem as well We didnt have a good week but the difference now is unbelievable. I can't hear anything now when he breathes and he's desperate to get off the lead and just run. I hope all goes well for you both.
By tadog
Date 01.07.12 20:25 UTC
My girl is on 500mg of Noroclav & 100mg of Batril do fingers crossed
By JeanSW
Date 01.07.12 21:35 UTC

<I hope somebody with a small dog can help you
It's her size that is the problem. There just isn't the room to manoeuvre that you get in a larger breed, which means she could suffocate during surgery.
Having a tracheotomy prior to the operation is a safeguard, but still dangerous. I have been told by the vet who will operate that it is risky. And they will definitely not let her come home. I have been advised that she will have to be hospitalised. I am lucky that my practice does 24 hour care. You can phone the hospital at midnight and talk to the vet or even ask the nurse who stays with the dogs.
I haven't found anyone with a small dog that has had this op, and I wondered what the survival rate is. I will get her weight off as requested, but her breathing is a struggle, and I don't believe that I can deny her the chance to have a normal life. It's crap having to make these decisions.
By japmum
Date 01.07.12 22:10 UTC

Jean,
I have a chin who had a laryngeal tieback about 20 months ago when he was just 2yrs old due to his larynx collapsing.
He went to davies specialist veterinary hospital in Bedfordshire,and the total cost was approx£3,500.
In all honesty I can't really say that his breathing is any better now than it was before and he is his own worst enemy in that he is easily excited and this causes major issues with his breathing.
Please feel free to pm me or ring me on 02392 342842 and I will try and help to answer your questions if possible as I feel that this would be the best option rather than trying to explain all here.
Just wanted to add that as soon as these problems came to light his breeder had his mother spayed and informed the stud dog owner to help prevent passing this condition onto future puppies
By JeanSW
Date 01.07.12 22:58 UTC

Very much appreciated. As it's so late now, will phone you when I get home from work tomorrow night.
Thank you.
By tadog
Date 02.07.12 14:29 UTC
Hattie update. over the weekend Hatties wound has not been good. the healing is not what we would want. the vet was worried re this due to her being on steroids. her anitbiotics 650mg per day are keeping the wet excema at bay only just. it is annoying but she needed the op quickly and we didnt have time to wean her off the steroids. she has now gradually been weaned down to the level that next week this time she will be off them, but of course they will still be in her system for a bit. breathing is so good now though. speaking to the vet in a bit to see where we progress from here.
By JeanSW
Date 02.07.12 16:23 UTC

Positive vibes here, breathing good sounds marvellous to me.
Onward and upward Hattie.
By tadog
Date 02.07.12 17:09 UTC
It is Jean SW. I wish you the very best of luck with your wee lass. will be thinking of you.
By Harley
Date 02.07.12 17:39 UTC

Not my own dog Jean but I do know of a very small Yorkshire Terrier - a rescue - who had this done and she was fine. It was done before she went to her new home so no details other than the operation was a success and she is a very tiny dog.
Positive thoughts sent :-)
By JeanSW
Date 02.07.12 22:30 UTC

Thanks Harley, it is great for me to hear of any tiny breeds with this, as it is not the norm!
I have had a long chat with japmum and really feel that I have been armed with a bit more knowledge, so I know what questions to ask. I will get some weight off her - vet says 1kg if poss, then will go ahead ASAP. The breathing is so laboured, and she deserves to have a shot at improving things.
By tadog
Date 03.07.12 19:43 UTC
Back to our own vet today. Wet excema under control, lung sounding good, wound now looking much dryer/better. to stay on high dose antibiotics for another week just to be sure and stiches hopefully out after 14 days due to Hattie being on steroids, so all good. when i think how we have come on in a week, what relief!
By JeanSW
Date 03.07.12 20:36 UTC

Wow, things seem to be racing forward. It is great to know that she is going to be feeling so much better in herself.
By Dawn-R
Date 03.07.12 21:19 UTC

It good to hear that things are improving. It must be such a relief for you. Great news.
Dawn R.
By tadog
Date 04.07.12 07:41 UTC
thanks nursey, it certainly is a good time. my oler lady who is almost 14.5 yrs is almost off her steroids also. she doesnt have L/P nearly so bad. it was only her unsettled sleep patterns that were giving us consern, but a short course of steroids have helps this. Hattie will hopefully be off her steroids at the end of next week.
I am so pleased to read of the progress made. I know I felt the same way after Scarlets op. We had to take it very slow while all was healing inside but gradually as she got her strength back we did walks that I never thought we would do again. I am sure your vet has discussed the risk of aspiration with you and to watch carefully particularly if the dog is sick. My Scarlet never got Aspiration Pneumonia so it in not a given.
By Dawn-R
Date 04.07.12 08:20 UTC

That's right Sue, my Bailey never aspirated either.
Dawn R.
By tadog
Date 04.07.12 12:28 UTC
Yes thanks. Vet hospital xplained risks re feed/drinking. Hattiesburg is being hand fed small "meatballs" and only allowed ten/15 laps of water and if she coPes ok with that she gets mOre. Very scarey!
That is fantastIc news. So pleased to hear Hattie is doing well.
By tadog
Date 10.07.12 16:44 UTC
Well only one more day and Hattie will be completly off her steroids. We were at the vets this afternoon to have the stiches taken out. but due to the slower healing he only took out two. the remainder hopefully will come out in a week. so they will have been in for three weeks. within herslef she is great. two weeks today since of. what a differance a couple of weeks make. my older girl is now completly of her steroids, so hopefull she will remain off them.

Thanks for the update,hope she goes from strength to strength.
By JeanSW
Date 10.07.12 21:42 UTC

Oh that is such welcome news. So very pleased for you. :-)
By Dawn-R
Date 11.07.12 08:46 UTC

Brilliant news. :)
Dawn R.
I am so pleased to read how well she is doing. You did all that for her. Well done.
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