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By flomo
Date 13.06.12 13:05 UTC

Oh what I would like to do to him, prison is to good............

I can't even begin to imagine the suffering the dog went through, to be shot several times, then hacked up with a meat cleaver, then half strangeld by a cord, then left for dead on the side of a motorway - all by the person you depend on............
I can't see how people like that should be allowed a place in our society.
By Celli
Date 13.06.12 18:23 UTC

What an utter creep, with any luck he'll come face to face with some dog lovers in jail.
This man is a father!................what a great example (not) and what a worry if he can do that to a pet he has?
It is stated the crime is so serious he will face prison time, let's hope that is carried through.
As for the dog, R.I.P I'm sorry that you had a human like this as your owner.
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By paxo
Date 13.06.12 18:46 UTC

Terrible...I am speechless
By JeanSW
Date 13.06.12 19:17 UTC

The suffering that dog went through before being given release is sickening.
Why put the guy in prison? Why waste taxpayers money?
I would like to put a wire round his neck, and hang him from a motorway bridge.
Do to him what he did to that poor animal
By tooolz
Date 14.06.12 08:37 UTC
Studies in he USA show that most serial killers start with abusing animals.
I hope the authorities are monitoring him.

Just heartbreaking. Prison is too good for him.
By Stooge
Date 14.06.12 09:35 UTC
> I hope the authorities are monitoring him.
I hope so too.
I also hope he is suitably punished although certainly not to the extent that some posters seem to wish
It always puzzles me how people can talk like that. Isn't that condoning the very same brutish, barbaric behaviour that they say should not have occured?
By theemx
Date 14.06.12 10:39 UTC

This really is the sort of behaviour that suggests someone is capable of prolonged, violent attacks on humans... I can't begin to imagine the horror that poor dog suffered.
I can understand why people react the way they do though Stooge, really I am a bit baffled as to why you can't - we're an emotional species, we hear something horrific like this and we dearly want the perpetrator to get a taste of their own medicine, for there to be REAL justice and karma..
Its incredibly frustrating to know that our own justice system very often does NOT prevail, and the penalties likely in this case are in no way commensurate with the actions taken by this guy!
So to me, its not very surprising at all that people will vent their feelings and wishes - what would surprise me MASSIVELY is if, given the opportunity, ANY one expressing such views actually carried them out - that is the difference between people who do things like this man has, and the rest of us - we have conscience, self control etc etc.
By JeanSW
Date 14.06.12 10:44 UTC
Spot on theemx.
>This really is the sort of behaviour that suggests someone is capable of prolonged, violent attacks on humans... I can't begin to imagine the horror that poor dog suffered.
Absolutely agree. And this sort of violence is not normal on something so defenseless. When murderers of children or beaters of women are prosecuted how many times do we find out they have abused animals?
This is not a one off rage, as in kick the dog in a temper. He went to get his gun, he shot it TEN times, then went and got a knife stabbed it multiple times
THEN went to get a rope to strangle the dog.
This is not the behavior of a normal rational person who should be allowed to walk around in public and around vulnerable animals and people. He preys from the weak as do so many people like this.
> most serial killers start with abusing animals.
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Its not surprising is it? Anyone that can hurt a living creature such as a dog or cat etc shows they are more than capable of harming humans.
Bring back hanging.....why waste my hard earned money to pay tax to keep the likes of him in a nice warm prison with 3 meals a day,tv and xbox.
By Stooge
Date 14.06.12 10:55 UTC
> really I am a bit baffled as to why you can't -
Because it is barbaric.
I hope Admin remove it, people have been arrested for posting stuff like that on the internet and saying they did not mean it was not accepted as an excuse.
> Because it is barbaric.
I agree, I generally refrain from reading these sorts of posts because I don't like reading what people would like to do to other human beings :-(
It's horrific and barbaric and Yes, studies have shown that people who murder other humans often start with cruelty to animals. I too hope he is punished (by a spell in prison) and monitored after release, and of course barred from owning any pet for life. However I wouldn't want any physical harm happen to him and I certainly wouldn't want to watch that or be able to do it myself.
By LJS
Date 14.06.12 11:41 UTC

I am with Stooge as two wrongs don't make a right.
I do not agree violence or insightment of violence against a criminal is justified.
If it was law and the death penalty was a punishment then that is a different matter but again it would have to have very strict monitors and ways of doing it.
I would also disagree the most serial killers begin by abusing animals. Alot of them are subject to abuse themselves at an early age but there is also an argument and research that it is something in their genetic makeup that determines that type of killer.
Not all animal abusers become human abusers as not all human abusers have ever abused an animal.

I agree ljs not all etc but unfortunately there does seem to be a horrible correlation between children who are prepared to inflict pain on animals and future agression yes they may also have been abused and unfortunately so the cycle goeson :(. As you said not all but that is humans for you
> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I would also disagree the most serial killers begin by abusing animals. Alot of them are subject to abuse themselves at an early age
This is true. Subject to abuse at a young age as the victim then become the perpetrator as they get older, often starting by inflicting abuse on animals.
By tooolz
Date 14.06.12 13:53 UTC
> it is something in their genetic makeup that determines that type of killer
Yes for sure, but many sadistic killers ( who no doubt had that genetic profile) are known to have used animals in their planning and role play.
Stands to reason that if you have those urges, you try them out on something less high profile...simply because
you can.
I also think that those who have stepped over that precipice of 'killing for pleasure', may be capable of just about anything.
By MandyC
Date 14.06.12 22:59 UTC

Havent read the article as it will haunt me tonight if i do but gathered enough from reading peoples posts and i dont care what people think of me, i would like him to recieve exactly what he dished out to the dog..........if he's tough enough to do it, id like to see if he's tough enough to take it........doubtful as deep down he is a coward thats why he targeted a defenseless loving dog :(
Pure evil and i hope to god he is faced with proper justice inside!
I am also essentially with Stooge on this. I imagine those who say they'd like to exact similar punishment on the perpetrator would like to do so in their imaginations only, I'm fairly sure that the reality of seeing another being screaming in agony would probably sicken them to their core. The desire for revenge is totally understandable and expressing it is understandable too it is a way of defusing the anger we all feel at cruelty like this- but I don't really believe any of you would genuinely want to see it through-that is what makes all of us different from him, surely?
By Jeangenie
Date 15.06.12 06:41 UTC
Edited 15.06.12 06:43 UTC

I'm another who finds the cries for revenge rather sickening and uncivilised; how can we possibly complain about such behaviour if we'd be willing to do it ourselves, for whatever reason? That makes us no better than him. The ideal punishment would be for him to suffer the pain
instead of the animal; for him to feel all the sensations of the blows that he himself inflicts.
JG,
Yes that would be the way. Although I would argue that if he felt the pain of the blows he himself inflicted he would have some kind of empathy and it seems to me this is the very quality he must be missing in order to do such terrible things. People like him literally have pieces missing, they are not complete humans.

I feel that people who do such things have no imagination and lack empathy, so a method (such as a shock-collar user feeling the same level of discomfort as the dog every time the control was activated) by which he felt the exact same pain and fear as the dog with every blow he inflicted would be the only way for him to learn.
> I feel that people who do such things have no imagination and lack empathy, so a method (such as a shock-collar user feeling the same level of discomfort as the dog every time the control was activated) by which he felt the exact same pain and fear as the dog with every blow he inflicted would be the only way for him to learn.
I think people like this allready
do know how much pain and suffering they are inflicinting and that is
why they do it, they get some sort of kick out of it.
The only way he could learn anything is if his acts were out of a bad temper, learning to control the temper would help, but I really don't think that's why he, or other people like this do what they do. That is why it's so worrying, if he has done this for the kick (
or whatever the twisted reason people like this act on
), then that urge will be with him forever and he may well one day be unable to fulfill his urge on an animal the size of a dog and need something bigger - that's when people start becoming these sikos victims :(
that's when people start becoming these sikos victims
Absolutely, the person who did this to the dog is without a doubt a psychopath, people do terrible things in anger, but this was systematic torture. It takes one shot in the right place to kill something, same as when stabbing and hanging, the fact that so many shots were used so many stab wounds and then to hang the dog, and it still was not dead.........
I know this breed/crosses of type dogs have a higher tolerance to pain than many other breeds but it must have suffered beyond belief you'd have to be a maniac to do that to a dog.
Which is why I am so worried that this man is a father and perhaps has a partner, he seriously needs watching.
After all that poor dog went through it was still hanging on for dear life, it would have been such a wonderful end if it had still been saved, alas not to be....... hopefully it had some kindness before it went to it's final rest.
The man needs to be on a danger list and watched for the rest of his life in and when released from the said prison sentence.
By tooolz
Date 15.06.12 14:04 UTC
Anger makes people react differently.
They may often say dreadful things but...what sets us apart from the man in the story is....normal people wont act upon it.
MOst people wouldn't act on it but if it was my animal or child or family member that was a victim,actually,I may see a side to myself that hadn't been seen before. PErhaps if our judical system was better it would be a different story but nowadays the punishment never fits the crime.
By Celli
Date 16.06.12 09:39 UTC
The ideal punishment would be for him to suffer the pain instead of the animal; for him to feel all the sensations of the blows that he himself inflicts.Like like like :-)

Just tagging on the end here with an update. The man has been sentenced to 26 weeks in prison.
Link to BBC news item
here
Justice is served, I know it probably does not sound like very long for the crime, but in this day and age it is better than I expected for animal cruelty.
The man will have a prison record for life and I really hope that he will serve the full 26 weeks, it didn't say he is banned from keeping animals, but I take that as read. (Hopefully)
I'm glad that the bi-polar card did not save him from prison.
> I know it probably does not sound like very long for the crime, but in this day and age it is better than I expected for animal cruelty
I was very surprised to read he actually got a prison sentence. I think 6 months is the maximum for animal cruelty, so he really did get the book chucked at him.
By Celli
Date 12.07.12 07:30 UTC

So pleased he got "time", although I don't feel 6 months is long enough it is the maximum sentence allowed, so good on the judge for taking the incident seriously.
I have one thing to say, man destroyed the world and is still doing, not animals.
man destroyed the world and is still doing,Hear Hear!!!
I couldn't agree with you more. We are replaying exactly what the residents of Easter Islanders did to themselves!
Scroll down to 'history'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island
By Stooge
Date 15.07.12 21:12 UTC
I'm not sure we can link the behaviour of one individual with the downfall of mankind.
The fact that he has received a significant prison sentence must demonstrate that this sort of thing is not accepted by society in general surely.
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