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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Pill taking
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 07.06.12 19:29 UTC
Hi, not been on here for ages, but I will see if anybody has some really good suggestions.
Floyd recently had a mast cell tumour removed from his back leg, additional tests were done on the biopsy and the score that came back was not good news, he had a full blood test screening last Tuesday and an ultra-sound on his abdomen to check his lymph nodes, spleen, liver and bowel, all results came back as good news.
He has now started a 6 month course of chemotherapy with a relatively new drug that we can give him at home.  This treatment means I have to give him 3 tablets once daily, they are not small tablets, but they cannot be broken in half or ground into a powder.  I have so far wrapped them in dairylea (light) cheese, but he ate the cheese and spat the tablet out, doesn't matter how I try to incorporate them into his food he finds them.  I am limited to what I can wrap the pill in, as he has pancreatitis and has a dry diet.  I have also tried to pop the pills into the back of his throat, even though you think it has gone it can re-appear about 10 minutes later, I want this to be as least stressful to him as possible and myself.
Does anybody have a dog that doesn't like taking pills but has found a way to do it quickly and effectively.
Many thanks
Jane
- By ridgielover Date 07.06.12 19:38 UTC
Is Floyd an only dog? If not, sometimes an element of competition can help. I hide a pill in a bit of food and give bits out in turn. It gets swallowed pretty quickly then :)
- By Celli [gb] Date 07.06.12 19:41 UTC
I found coating pill's in butter enabled them to slip down my dogs throat an awful lot easier when he was ill. I still had to put them down his throat, but they didn't come back again.
- By Esme [gb] Date 07.06.12 19:48 UTC
Hi Jane, sorry about your Floyd. One of ours has pancreatitis and is not to have a fatty diet, but he can tolerate Chappie. So I can wrap any pills in a little Chappie and put them in the back of his throat. If I hold his jaws shut, he will swallow them OK. As you say, a dry diet makes it trickier. Do you think he would be OK on Chappie as part of his diet? If not, I guess it would be a bit of a waste to open a whole tin just for his tablets.

Otherwise, I've had success with a bit of pate with other dogs, but I guess that is not exactly low fat!
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 07.06.12 19:50 UTC
Hi ridgielover, Floyd is an only dog and is not food driven, its as if he knows I am trying to give him something other than food when something is gift wrapped so to speak and then can refuse to eat anything lol...
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 07.06.12 19:54 UTC
Hi Esme, his diet is dry Chappie Original (he doesn't like Chappie Chicken), but he does not like either of the tinned variety for some reason, as I have also tried it, he is very fussy I am afraid, but thank you.
- By Esme [gb] Date 07.06.12 20:02 UTC
Oh, what a pain. Hopefully someone will be along in a while with a really good idea. I mean, you could crush his tablets along with a Chappie kibble or two, but then if he didn't eat it all you'd be uncertain about how much he'd had. All the best then.
- By tooolz Date 07.06.12 20:37 UTC
Never fails.....

Ready cooked cocktail sausages in packs of 30 or 50.
Cut one in half ...in one half secrete pill (in a slit made in the side and squash together).

Hold the 'non pill' half in front of his face but offer the 'pilly' one first ...he will see if he eats the first he quickly gets the second.
Works even better if another dog wanders by :-)

Useful for good treat takers but may work for a fussy one as the sausages contain flavour enhancers.

I freeze half a pack at a time to make them last.
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 07.06.12 20:49 UTC
Now that sounds like something I could try, ready cooked cocktail sausages, thank you tooolz, I will let you know how I get on.
Many thanks
Jane
- By Merlot [gb] Date 07.06.12 21:17 UTC
Pate always works for me too but not sure if you could get away with feeding it to him. Maybe a garlic and veg pate would do the trick, I am sure there must be something available.
Aileen
- By tooolz Date 07.06.12 21:18 UTC
Dont forget to let him think he gets the 2nd one if he quickly eats the first, stops him rifleing through the first and finding the pill... :-)
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 07.06.12 21:57 UTC
Sounds familiar, we used to have a xbreed we had to do that with but used those pink wafer biscuits................any time she went to the vets and came out with tablets it meant a quick call to the shop for a packet.
I used to break one into three, she was always suspicious of the first which was 'undoctored' but after giving it a good check out she then shovelled the second bit (with tablet) as I was waving the third clear one right under her nose :-D
- By rabid [gb] Date 08.06.12 13:13 UTC
I have tried everything and now swear by these Vivitreats things:  http://www.vetdispense.co.uk/feeding/1967-vivitreats-pill-pockets-help-administer-tablets.html

They are squishy brown stuff, like plastercine consistency.  You push the pill into them and squish it around the outside of the pill so no pill is exposed.  My very fussy dog then swallows it in one gulp.  They are pretty pricey, but they keep forever in a resealable bag.
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 09.06.12 08:01 UTC
Thank you for all your suggestions
- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 09.06.12 09:42 UTC
Someone suggested hula hoops, put the pill in the middle and then fill the sides with pate or cream cheese. Because the crisps are crunchy they don't tend to notice the pill.
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 09.06.12 10:18 UTC
I used to cook white fish fillets (bought the cheapy fillets from Tesco's - think they were £3ish for a bag)
and then pop tablets into the fish when cool, my girl used to eat them no worries and she had dietry intolerances
so wouldn't tolerate any 'fatty' foods such as sausage.
I used to cook enough for a couple of days and just used to keep it in a container in the fridge.
Not sure if you'd be able to do that with the size of your tablets?
- By dogs a babe Date 09.06.12 14:28 UTC
Whenever I've had a problem dog or just difficult, or large, tablets I do the same as Tooolz except I offer three:  "ooh wow sausage", "urgh tablet sausage", "ooh wow more sausage"

... or ham, cheese etc - depends on the dog.

One of my dogs isn't really a problem as such but for some reason (throat size, lack of saliva?) some tablets just get a bit stuck on their way down and he can cough them up again by mistake if it's tickly.  I coat all his tablets in butter or other hard fat and just lob them in :)
- By dollface Date 09.06.12 16:37 UTC
Try the pill pockets http://www.greenies.com/dogs.aspx#/products/dog-food-allergy-pill-pockets
I find they work wonders! The beef ones are the best cause you can usually get 3-4 pills with one
capsule. I just break off a piece and smeer it all over the pill.

I give them their glucosamine and chrondition this way every morning. 
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 10.06.12 05:28 UTC
We have had some fun and games, he loves the cocktail sausages, but I think he must be the only dog that chews his food lol.... out they pop, I have even made him sit and catch them, which he does, but then starts to chew, I have also wrapped them in corned beef, there isn't really a "human" food he doesn't like, mainly because he is not allowed them except for fish and chicken.  I boiled a chicken for him yesterday and tried to insert a pill in between a smallish chunk and it was the pill that was left in bowl lol....  So I have had to make him sit and open his mouth and pop them into the back of his mouth, I have had to do this a few times this morning as he fights it and even if I hold his head back and rub his throat it still manages to work it ways back on the kitchen floor the little so and so, I wouldn't mind, but he came and woke me up for his breakfast at 5:30am.... 
Oh the joy for the next 6 months..  He could have had the other chemotherapy treatment where he would have had to spend the day hooked up to an I.V. which the vet says, because Floyd gets so stressy would have made him even more poorly and also he would be toxic for the first 5 days of each treatment that he would go through.
These tablets that he is taking shouldn't make him feel sick and be kind on his stomach and so far they haven't, still early days (only 4 days in), but still have to wear rubber gloves to give him tablets and handling them, have to use rubber gloves if he is sick and also to pick up his pooh, but I couldn't really envisage a day where I would pick his pooh up by hand anyways lol......
I shall keep trying different things, but thank you for your suggestions.....
- By Jane_Floyd [gb] Date 10.06.12 06:13 UTC
I would like to try these, but I don't think you can get them in the UK....  Greenies have been the only treat that we give to Floyd now and again without upsetting his stomach, and the only way that I get the greenies occasionally is that they sometimes become available in our staff shop..
- By tooolz Date 10.06.12 07:16 UTC

>I think he must be the only dog that chews his food lol.... out they pop


Dont wait for him to chew Jane...immediately give or throw another bit of sausage. He wont have time to chew :-)
Topic Dog Boards / Health / Pill taking

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