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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Puppy crying and older dog problems!!
- By laurenx [gb] Date 27.05.12 14:04 UTC
Hi all, i have another chocolate labrador  puppy called tilly who is almost 8 week old ive had her a few days the first night i was up all night with her, the second night she seemed to sleep a few hours more if she is crying would you ignore the crying? or go to her if she is crying?
Also we have a older chocolate labrador molly who is 4 years and she growls at tilly and walks away from tilly alot if tilly comes near her
- By dollface Date 27.05.12 14:56 UTC
Do you have her kenneled?
Sometimes if the kennel is in the room with you at night works.

I have mine in the living room- due to dogs sleep downstairs in the living room- When Moose wined I would get up take her out- not make a big fuss- tell her she was good
for doing her duty then straight back into the kennel and I back to bed. I also have a water dish in the kennel cause I found at times it was just because
she was thirsty. If I just took her out and she wined I would ignore her unless she had an upset tummy then I always got up. Also made sure she had
chew bones in her kennel at all times. At 8 weeks their bladders are only tiny and they need to go now lol

I would watch play with the two dogs but once puppy gets to be to much make sure the other one does have some quite time as well.
The older one I am sure will tell puppy off which is normal as long as the older one is not hurting puppy.

Moose being a large breed puppy and I have Boston terriers they would tell her off- sometimes nipped her (nothing bad just telling off cause she didn't
get the growl) she would cry like she was tortured lol As soon as they gave the growl after that she knew it was time to give them their space. They are
12 & 11 yrs old. Now they all play fine, they still do tell her off at times cause she can be a lil much- now at almost 8 months and huge. I also
make sure to when they say enough she leaves them alone.

She still doesn't have full run of the house due to chewing still but she is being left out of the kennel more and more at little periods at a time.

Congrats on ur puppy :-)
- By laurenx [gb] Date 27.05.12 14:59 UTC
yeah she has a kennel with my other dog in their own room, thanks for the advice helps alot:)
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 27.05.12 15:32 UTC
She has been used to contact from her litter mates,dam etc. so it is alot to expect her to stay quiet at night all alone.

I only have a small breed so new ones come into bed with me initially and let me know when they want out, they then progress to a crate/carrier by the bed which I can reach out to reassure, when I am happy they can cope they are paired up with an adult but they all sleep in my bedroom any way.

The less fuss you make when they are taken out during the night they will soon learn it isn't time for a game therefore is rather boring and have a wee and go back to bed quite happily. In the early weeks I don't leave water over night as that will make them want to wee more, I do allow them a quick drink when they do go out. During the day you are taking them out every hour so the bladder doesn't get the chance to stretch till the gap is increased, during the night the urine production slows down so they should only need one trip out during the night.

Don't offer food too close to bed time either or that too will want to come out the other end, my pups get part of a dental chew as a signal that it is time to settle down,this continues into adulthood too.

As time goes on the trips out during the night stop but still be prepared if they become restless to take them out as they may have an upset stomach.

Adult dogs are the best at telling pups when they have had enough, their dam would have done the same if she was given proper access to her pups till they were re homed.
- By laurenx [gb] Date 28.05.12 06:47 UTC
So last she slept till about 2am then started crying, i went to her twice let her out too pee and gave her some food but then she didnt want to sleep lol even if i leave her in a room by herself she will cry alot, how long does the crying at night last?
- By Toon Date 28.05.12 06:57 UTC
The crying at night is likely to stop if you put the crate next to your bed. You can put your fingers through to reassure her if she wakes up. After a few weeks you can gradually move the crate further away from the bed and she can sleep downstairs when she's properly settled.

I used 2 crates - one downstairs for during the day and another one next to my bed. Didn't have any sleepless nights.
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 28.05.12 13:37 UTC
Feeding her during the night is going to encourage her to make a fuss for the attention,you are rewarding her,she shouldn't be hungry during the night as all her systems have slowed down and she isn't using the energy she would during the day. you need to make your visit as boring as possible, out for a wee and back to bed, brief praise for doing her business but don't get her over excited.

She may cry for longer if she feels alone and scared, none of us like disturbed sleep so tend to do things that mean we don't have to get out of bed if we can avoid it so having the pup in the bedroom means they are near at hand to reassure if needs be, a little patience now will make for a happier pup in the long run.

Like human babies they need to be broken from waking for the middle of the night feed, the easiest way is to offer them water to drink if the night feeds are going on too long, I had a friend who had a 5 yr old who was still waking several times a night for a drink either milk or juice, my son was 18 months younger and when we went to stay her hubby was amazed that my lad slept through even in a strange house, it was very hard to break the habit when it had gone on for so long.

To keep your scent with her when you are not get an old top/T shirt, no buttons or zips etc, wear it during the day and throw it into the crate with her as she goes to bed each night and she can snuggle with it.

It is early days, I went 15 yrs between pups and it was a stepp learning curve for the first week till he got used to the routine and I now do the same with all new additions not born here regardless of age.
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