I cant believe this. It was on day break but here is the link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4337143/Medics-smash-house-to-save-63-stone-teen-Georgia-Davis.html
Dr Hilary Jones actually said what I was going to. If someone is so FAT they cannot get out of their house without a wall being knocked down, They cannot get up to go to the door to recieve deliverys, how the HELL do they get the food to eat to stay that size?? (63 stone)

The people getting the food for them and helping them get that fat should be charged with abuse. The parents of this particular girl should be charged with abuse. If they didnt buy the food, she would not have been able to, at the age of 9,(7 stone) go out and buy it herself.
There is no mention of her having the disorder that a few have that means they are hungry all the time, this was comfort eating!!! No excuse for getting that size, only people to blame is the mother and step father.
Last person I knew of like that died as fell onto his stomach and noone could turn him over to enable him to breath as he was 40+ stone. He came out the same way as the 63 stone girl, with the wall taken down, but he came out in a wooden box.
And who the HELL paid for this and pay for the house to be put back, oh yes US. And how much has it cost!!!
Oh and she is classed as a carer, so getting extra money in the family from the goverment to be a CARER, So thats Fraud if they are claiming benefits.
(sorry to all who saw this rant on FB!!!)
Lea

What these people need is a good psychiatrist, the whole family! Often it is nothing to do with food, for some reason the parents/carers of this teenager feel a need to please her more so than realising they are killing her.

I remember an American programme with a man like this, his mother did the same, he went away had an op and lost so much weight, as soon as he got home old habits came back and he was sat in his bedroom eating again.

So, as horrible as this sounds the daughter once after therapy and a good diet is implemented and probably surgery too, she needs not to go back home unless the parents have had extensive therapy too.

I agree the whole thing is utterly ridiculous, but for those caught up in this vicious circle they just can't see it. :-)

Poor girl
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> The people getting the food for them and helping them get that fat should be charged with abuse

This is exactly what i have been saying for a long time. Also, children eat what they are given whether its healthy 'proper' meals or takeaways every night. When delved into a lot of people with food/weight issues find it stems from childhood.
I think the whole family need help....sadly, its probably too late now

What a shame.  What I find saddest is the fact she lost nearly 15 stone, was done to a size 22 but then came home only to be given the same unhealthy diet which had caused her weight to balloon in the first place.  Poor girl :-(

I sit and think this all the time when I'm watching this sort of thing on the TV.  These people can't even move let alone get their own food so its down to the people feeding them every time. It does make you seriously wonder why they are doing it.

Being stuck at home not being able to do anything at the moment I watch Pick TV USA biggest looser.
It was a new series on Tuesday, and one lad, HUGE, lost 34lbs in the first week. Now seeing as he was upping his excercise but still very slow, most of that weight loss would have been from changing the way they eat.
So if the people buying the food bought them healthy food, they would loose weight even though they could be bed bound.
Fish and chips as soon as she came home from the boot camp is just rediculous, and yes, as someone said, the family should be given psychiatric help as well.
WHY would you just sit back and help your own child (or anyone even your worst enemy) get bed bound from over eating.
I hope she survives and is put into care away from the two people that are killing her. If she dies then the mother and step father should be convicted of manslaughter.
Lea.

OMG!!,, Thats awful,, and yes Lea i would think the Social will now be looking into this as the girl cant walk herself how the hell is she meant to be caring for her mother with a heart problem,, She hasn't been out of bed for months and they couldn't shift her." ohh but shes meant to be caring for her mother!!,,,

To much money to waste i think,, its for people like this that this government want to cut off the DLA,, And frankly you cant blame them,,

i wouldn't be surprised if the daughter is also getting DLA for herself, they would be living rent free,, no council tax to pay,

getting over £1000 a month in benefits easy,,, well thats just slightly less than we get with my partner working full time we couldn't afford to eat the amount she must have gotten thu to get her that size,,,

I think its a disgrace,, the mother should be charged with child cruelty,

This made me laugh tho,, Huge tarpaulins were put up to protect Georgia's dignity

BIT LATE FOR THAT DONT YOU THINK!!,,, lol

i dont think they need a shink,, they need their benefits cut,, let them feel the pinch they'll soon start eating proper meals and not junk when they dont have the funds to keep them in the manner they been accustom to ,, and just look what its done for them,,,

It makes me mad as hell,,, these people are getting enough money to live a fantastic life really,, and what do they do,, eat themselves to death,, the step dad has lung cancer i wonder how many a day he smoked to contribute to that!,,

We need to go back to basics in this country its not just the mothers fault,, its also the fault of the system who give these kinds of people enough money to get themselves in this state,

Highlight of my month was a new over glove from the pound land, put them on a wage like we live on and we are in London, i bet she'd drop 20 stone in a few weeks,

> If she dies then the mother and step father should be convicted of manslaughter

They are not entirely culpable.  Parents who have lost children/young adults to Anorexia or other eating disorders aren't either

I think she may be too old to go into care now as she is 19 but yes, having someone continuning a sensible eating plan and healthy lifestyle at home could have led to a completely different outcome than she had living with her family

it all comes down to the same thing Freds mum,

the mother gets DLA plus IS,
the Step dad getting DLA plus IS, 
the daughter getting Carers allowance plus IS,
The family home is Rent Free/council tax free,

on the kind of money they have coming in the household they can afford to eat takeout every night of the week,,
why bother cooking a healthy meal when your pork fried rice chips and curry sauce is a phone call away,,, and free delivery,,

Stop these benefits, for these kind of people who abuse it and don't use it for the good it was put their for!,, it sure has done them no favors has it!,

I could afford to eat takeaway everynight if i wanted but the difference is i want a quality of life and couldnt bear to look in the mirror and see a big fat lump looking back so even if the money is available its about making the right choice.Supermarkets (eg iceland) do cheap processed food aswell co even on a low budget people can eat c**p
i do agree that its wrong for them to be claiming some of their benefits eg a carers allowance when you cant even care for yourself. Although they arent in the minority are they??!! How many people are claiming benefits fraudulantly?! makes me RAGE!! I know someone claiming disability for a bad back whilst her husband has given up work to be her carer....she horserides and goes out clubbing

>They are not entirely culpable.  Parents who have lost children/young adults to Anorexia or other eating disorders aren't either

This is NOTHING like Anorexia etc, The direct comparison would be someones Anorexic because they have not been given food. And if you with held food from someone causing them to be malnourished you would be locked up.

Yes it is an eating disorder, but someone that size has to be fed. She did not get that size going out to buy food herself (for a long time anyway) So how was she getting the food. Someone was getting it for her.
Now Alot of us I bet have changed the way our families eat or our partners have, if we feel they are putting on weight by buying healthier food and cooking healthier things.  That is what should have been done her, but from the girls own words it wasnt :-
After shrinking from Size 38 to Size 22 she was able to wear fashionable clothes for the first time. But within 20 months of her dramatic transformation she was back up to 40st 6lbs on a 13,000 calorie-a-day diet. She said: "When I arrived home my mum said she hadn't had time to prepare any healthy food, so we had fish and chips instead."

And this is not over night, this has been long term abuse. from a very early age. 7 stone at the age of 9. a 9 year old doesnt go out buying junk food without either being given money to do it or their parents bringing it home for them
Lea.

>....she horserides and goes out clubbing 

You can and SHOULD report these people Anonimously!!!!
If they are legitamet then there will be no problem. If they arnt they will have their benefits stopped. Benefits that WE are paying for through our taxes!!!
https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/
Lea :)

Ahh yes FM,,  but they are not on a low Budget,, if i am right in saying what they are probable getting , and i suspect i am, then they are bringing in ALOT,,  of money into the household in pure benefits only,

but like you say it is a choice they make to do what they want with the monies they get,, where as they could afford to eat very fresh healthy foods on their money but the easier option and the lazy option is to order out,,

I must say i find it better to have less money i think people become more resourceful and make better choices,, i know i do and i really begrudge spending loads in the supermarkets when less face it most of their offers and always on things like Coke cola, biscuits and other rubbish, 
that you dont really need,

when my lot now come asking "mum wheres the fizzy drinks"?,, i say we paying £50.00 a month to Thames water for the use of it,, we'r on a blooming hose pipe ban,,, so i want my moneys worth,, theirs the tap boys,,, and what comes out of it is so much better for you,,

We All know people like your horse rider their and yes some are taking the right mick outta the system , but this family deserve their benefits or not, i feel its because of these that they have ended up this way,

its all to easy for them,, you can see why government want to crack down,,

> Yes it is an eating disorder, but someone that size has to be fed. She did not get that size going out to buy food herself (for a long time anyway) So how was she getting the food. Someone was getting it for her

I'm not defending her parents but this girl is making decisions for herself, and has been for a long time.  We only know a fraction of the story which has been put out there in a sensationalist way.  Someone of her age is capable of getting food by picking up the phone and ordering, persuading friends, and bullying her own parents.  People with eating orders are capable of great deceit whether they consume too much or deny themselves food.

Internet talk of prosecution for manslaughter (should she die) is unrealistic.  My point is simply that the parents are not entirely culpable.  Indefensible maybe...  

Now Alot of us I bet have changed the way our families eat or our partners have, if we feel they are putting on weight by buying healthier food and cooking healthier things

Yes thats exactly it in a nut shell,, i stopped buying fizzy drinks  for my lot not because how much they cost, but because they would just go thu to much of the stuff,,

dont get me wrong i like a nice cold can of coke from time to time,, but if i bought a box of like 30 or however many it is,Asda keep repeating their offers on these , my sons and hubby would drink  loads of it,, cos its their to be had,, so i refuse to buy it now,

fish and chips is nice but in here your looking at over £20.00 to feed us all on that,, gosh i could make a nice veg stir fry for a fiver and feed us all for the night,

I feel it is pure laziness on the part of the mother,, i mean should someone with a heart condition even be eating fish and chips,,,

she could afford to buy an actifry to cook the chips, and nice plain piece of cod Big side salad and the benefits would be so much better for the whole family,,

You have to ask if the mother herself has been looking after the daughter and running up the chippie for dinner,, how disabled is she exactly,,

looks  to me like their getting all the DLA and running their selfs into the ground with it,,,

This is so sad, I remember watching the documentry of her weight loss in the USA. 

She started comfort eating as a small child when her Dad died and she had no life as she looked after her Mum who quite frankly seemed to want her home with no life because she couldn't be bothered being the parent in the relationship.

She worked so hard to get the weight off and was so scared to go home because she knew she wouldn't get any support from her Mum.  She told her Mum what food she needed in the house when she got home but the cupboards were full of crap. The Mum is either mentally ill or so selfish that she would rather her daughter left home in a coffin than left home to have a life. Poor girl.

Exactly. Who does the main shopping?? It certainly isnt her, she obviously couldnt drive as wouldnt fit in a car, and certainly wouldnt be able to walk to the shops and carry shopping home. And 13,000 calories a day would be a HELL of alot of food just for her, even if your talking chocolate and crisps. :-

>A typical daily intake includes processed ready-meals, several sandwiches, multi-packs of peanuts and crisps, sausages, pasties, chips, chocolate and chunks of cheese -- washed down with litre bottles of Coke or pints of milk.

Thats a hell of alot of food per day for one person, so deffinatly not something she would be able to carry for a long time as she has been bed bound for months

Normally in the house 1 person does the main shop, and others just get top ups. In my house it is me, and my partner/kids get the top ups.
So if one person is doing the shopping then they are buying the food for her to eat.

Here is another article that the quote earlier came from Pre her going to America. Shows her mum is responsible for her daughters weight, so yes, I stand by my comments that it was long term child abuse, and her mother should be charged with it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/real_life/1499935/Britains-fattest-teenager-Georgia-Davis-from-South-Wales-weighs-33-stone-aged-15-Doctors-warn-her-to-lose-weight-or-die.html

Lea

>They are not entirely culpable.  Parents who have lost children/young adults to Anorexia or other eating disorders aren't either

Anorexia and bulimia are the opposite of stuffing ones face. You can offer your child a meal and not know that they are vomiting it back up or hiding it to avoid eating it, parents in those situations will do all they can to HELP thier child.
Buying in enough food for a room-bound person to get to and maintain that massive weight is blatently obvious - the food HAS to be in the house in order for the girl to eat it. Stop the huge amount of food coming into the house=stop the over-eating, a much simpler solution than getting a person that refuses to eat actually eating, or one that vomits up thier food to stop vomiting.

My mum has a tenadancy to eat too much, funny when she lived with me for a few months her weight dropped, allthough she still snacked on unhealthy things when out (one could always spot a pasty wrapper in her car door!), I was in control of the food shopping so the food simply was not in the house to be gorged upon. It really doesn't matter how complex the 'issues' are that a person has that leads them to over eat, they simply can not do so if the food isn't there. When that over-eater is imprsisoned in a bed room, they can not get the food into the house without other people facilitating, ignoring the fact the parents let the girl get that fat in the first place,  they had ample opportunity to aid weight loss once she was not able to get out of her bed room.

> And 13,000 calories a day would be a HELL of alot of food just for her, even if your talking chocolate and crisps. :-<br /><br />

13,000 calories per DAY   I have less than that per WEEK (1,800 per day/12,600 per week).

> I stand by my comments that it was long term child abuse, and her mother should be charged with it.

I agree with you.

Ohh i'v had mummy issues to lunamoona ,, my mum would have rather been at work than stay home and care for me,, she was simply NEVER HOME,, my dinners where school dinners,

my home was an empty scary place to come home home to age 7 and knowing their was nothing but a tin of spam and some mouldy bread for snacks was an awful feeling especially when my friends mums would be calling them in for their nice cooked meal and i went home alone to nearly  nothing,

now i am expected to care for my mum all the time cook her healthy dinners daily as she has very high blood pressure and cholesterol, and she really feels she done alright by me as a child cos i am good at caring for her and my family, ( NOT something i picked up from her i must ad)and YES i feel resentful at this as i dont feel i was brought up , more like left to get on with it,

and yes i have cried into my wimpy cheese burger when i have felt depressed enough to buy one on my way home from shopping and the thought of hours in the kitchen cooking different meals for my lot really brings me down,,

but she's a Big girl now (forgive the pun lol)  she needs to get on for herself, maybe if she took her carers allowance and went shopping for her own food buying just healthy salads and stuff, she would do her self a great service,

It's child abuse, pure and simple. Continual overfeeding is merely the other extreme of starvation. Both are life-threatening..

I think this family deserve our pity not condemnation.  This is crime of ignorance not wilful intention to cause death or actual bodily harm. There is no crime in law here. 

Should there be immediate intervention from Social Service - yes
Should they be billed for the 'extraction' including repair to the house - yes
Should the whole family receive some form of help to address the problem - yes

However, there are many people that could have intervened on this girls behalf if the family were unable to recognise the problem or understand the dangers.  A guardian could have been appointed whilst she was still of age if Social Services felt there was genuine neglect.  I'd be interested to know if any action has been taken previously...

We have a huge problem of obesity in this country and I hope that cases like these are used to fuel a healthy debate about what can and must be done.

well looking at the picture or what food she eats in a day,, How the hell does she afford to buy all that junk everyday its not cheap even to eat that rubbish still costs a fair bit,,

Oh Yes of course,, The Benefits,, CUT THESE,, and they would Not be able to afford to buy all this,

you dont have to have a lot of money to eat healthy,, in fact i think its cheaper to eat healthy than to gorge on this stuff everyday,

and at almost £2.00 a bottle the coke would be the first thing they need to get rid of,

the crisps,, a bag of carrots and pot of humus much cheaper and lush umm,

I blame the mother for getting the girl this way,, and our state benefit system for allowing them to use our hard earn taxes to pay them to do it!, 

>in fact i think its cheaper to eat healthy than to gorge on this stuff everyday

You're absolutely right. There's plenty of information in magazines, in newspapers and on TV about obesity and the unhealthiness of it. Ignorance or poverty are no excuse.

Thanks for the link Lea but been there, done that :-)....3 times. Apart from a phone call she received (in which he told them it was all lies and she still has a severe bad back) nothing gets done. Thats the problem with this country....dont get me started :-)

Good on you for trying :) She will get her cumpuponce(sp?) one day. Especially as they are going to be cracking down on it all x
Lea :)

in reply to Fred's mum - there was an article in Take a Break mag recently about people who were abusing the benefit system who had been caught out on video etc. If I remember rightly I think the cases went to court but unfortunately the penalties seemed to be too light eg. a few months in jail for 20 years of benefit fraud. Not much of a deterrant.

13,000 calories per DAY    I have less than that per WEEK (1,800 per day/12,600 per week).

As a vegan I struggle to get 900-1000 cals in a day, I just cannot comprehend eating 13,000 calories in a single day. There is such a sense of sadness about this story.  Nobody would ever choose to be this way, depression has to play some part.  I hope that in hospital she is given the treatment she needs and not sent back home to endure more of the diet she has been fed, bariatric surgery must surely be an option. I haven't actually heard of her before so maybe that has already been done.  It is so very very sad :(

Could you feed yourself with arms that size?

I have nursed patients who have been so heavy they have had to lose a substantial amount before the scales would record their weights. The most recent one I had to get someone from the maintainance dept to come and saw the side off her wheelchair as it had buckled so much the lock would no longer work, this was late on a Friday afternoon and no help available from the dept that dealt with over sized beds, commodes etc till Monday.

Most patients have to have a hoist built over the bed on a gantry, this takes 2 bed spaces but still more than 2 staff to get the patient into the sling without them falling out of bed.

Patients have deliberately put themselves on the floor[not fallen or hurt themselves], if this happens away from their bedside it may take several hours to get them back on to their bed. The portable hoists only take up to a certain weight and you use one and it fails then you are in serious trouble.

Some patients will do what they can to help themselves but majority expect the nurses to do all the hard work of handling,moving and keeping them clean and cared for and throw tantrums over diet changes, physio etc. upsetting the other patients around them.

It is no wonder that after 40 yrs of caring for this type of patient[ was advised to give up 8 years ago but couldn't afford to then or now really] I have had to retire on health grounds due to severe arthritis in most of my major joints and sme minor ones.

>Nobody would ever choose to be this way, depression has to play some part.

The first person to realise that depression is a disease that is too often ignored.  And I believe that you have hit the nail on the head.

Lea - I think you mean comeuppance.

>Lea - I think you mean comeuppance

Ah thats the one, my brain seemed to stop working the day I did 5 1/2 weeks ago!!!!

I am sure depression is a huge part of it, both on the girl in question and the mother. But depression isnt an excuse for child abuse(facilitating the girl to get that size) , same way as depression isnt an excuse for animal abuse.
Lea :)

Not commenting on this girl, but this situation can be a type of control and a way to 'keep' a person from growing up and moving on by the parent.
I know this girl went to America but she was soon home and eventually in a worse situation than before she went.
Hope she gets the help she needs to get well.

Sorry Rhona, forgot to reply to you.
Thats about what dad said after 18 1/2 years as an ambulance man. Some were fine but others he had to battle with :(
Lea

St Domingo,
Thats what someone on my facebook said, and I whole heartedly agree. Same way as not encouraging their children to do well, or have an confidence so they dont move out but mor eextreme.
Very very sad :(
Lea.

Have spent my working life in  'care'  too. It's a tricky one.
We have used the fire brigade to assist, we have bariatric equipment for the largest but, and sadly this is true, the problem is only getting worse and worse.

Most equipment tends to be for use up to about a 16 stone average and that includes most standard stuff. Zimmer frames and such like.
If we are to be doing all by the book then we have to ensure all equipment is suitable as more than ever patients are over this weight. It is our duty to ensure that patients are safe on all things and importantly we are safe handling people. If not it is simply a case of safety first.

Karen

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-fattest-teenager-tragic-63st-849166

more on this girl,, would seem the thought of going back to America boot camp was enough to give her a panic attack ,,

and well its no wonder she had became really ill and needed carrying  out the house,, the family most likely Ate £5000 worth of junk food over the last few months,, ,
using the money meant for the trip,,

Cant they just give her that gastric band and be done with!

Thing is, surely at 63st she is too heavy for major abdominal surgery.  Think she would have to lose a lot of weight before they would consider putting her under a GA.

And who can ever forget the great lengths that Jamie Oliver went to to bring healthy eating into schools.

He had to fight tooth and nail to get support and what did these 'caring' parents do for the kids whose school was used in the experiement??

They took fish and chips in newspaper to the school gates at lunch time and feed them to their kids through the bars rather than have eat properly in the school canteen!!

Just who needs parents like that?  My first thought was What To**ers my second thought was charge with them abuse.  Pity they weren't, it might have saved this country a lot of benefits being paid to provide the opposite of 'welfare and care'.

But at the end of the day it really is tragic.

I totally agree with Carrington. 

Having lost my brother age 47 to obesity a few years ago.  He was diabetic, lost both legs and still wouldn't/couldn't stop eating.  I tried my hardest to re-educate him and my Mum but at a loss.  when I was there they would say no more cola, no more crisps, no more chips. 

Soon as my back was turned.  i'm not making excuse nor blaming my Mum but my brother had learning difficulties and so does my Mum (illiterate).  Like I say no excuses and not even opened the link or know anything about the story.  Just wanted to say it is a viscious circle and all involved need re-educating.

It is an addiction as much as alcohol and tobacco.

Lung cancer doesn't stop smokers, diabetes doesn't stop sugar eaters curbing their food and carb intake,  obesity is an effect of too many calories.

But there is no doubt, it is a growing epidemic and that is my poor english, not an intentional pun, sorry....

Karen