hi looking for some help please, ive had someone put down a deposit on one of my puppies, ive looked on google earth and seen where they live
made me a bit edgy due to brick outbuildngs, and not what i thought it would be, ive now looked it up a bit more and i think they have boarding kennels and cattery
if its the same person she breeds a certain breed of cat,
am i wrong in just thinking its a farm it could be all good and faithful and she could own a boarding kennel.
any info or thought on this would be great as im considering returing the deposit,
ive looked everywhere and shes not selling any puppies would the kennel club be able to tell me if she has registered any litters with them
the other houses in the same area out of 7 3 are called somthing farm,
sorry if this goes on a bit be greatful for advice

One would have though you would have found out what she does for a living before accepting a deposit. Or even before you placed them on your list and allowed to view. Ask them? If they are not forthcoming to confrontation. You can say they breached the contract and return deposit. Ring around breeders close to you to warn them

she said she lived in a small village and been looking a while for a pup like mine, she said she has 2 older grandchildren that cant wait,
and she sent me a card saying how shes looking forward to collecting her, all seemed good till i looked on google earth first time
it might be nothing just looking for comments thanks

Have you put the phone number into Google?

It would show up any adverts for puppies?

I'm not sure owning a boarding kennel means they would breed indiscriminately.

Oh dear, someone saying they live in a small village is not the same picturesque image as saying that they live on a 'farm' and have 'boarding kennels' and breed cats, even though it will no doubt be in a village, but the truth is you don't know what this place is, you should know, but you don't as the right questions have not been asked.

People bend the truth for all sorts of reasons, it could be that she was afraid you would think she had a puppy farm if she told you outright that she 'may' run kennels and breed cats too. Or it could be an outright lie as she is a puppy farmer looking for more stock. :-(

Only one way to find out apart from using the phone number to check the address, can you or do you know someone who will go to the area and find out for you exactly what is there?

You may be panicking for nothing or your instincts may well be right. But the fact that the true story is not put in front of you would make me pull away immediately and run with my pup, but did you ask? If you did not ask, then you have to give them a chance.

she dont live locally its about a 2 hour drive, i worked in boarding kennels and the owner had a few dogs himself he had a few litters but they were all well looked after
and were free to have a roam so dont want to tarnish them all the same,
do you think the kennel club will know of any litters registered, i know if it is a farm they dont kc them
thanks for the replies

Just to add to your titles question does boarding kennels mean puppy farm of course it doesn't, plenty of people who enjoy animals have businesses like this with no whiff whatsoever of ever being a puppy farmer or ever breeding, it is quite different running a kennel and having your own dogs too, at least a dog can come to work with you. :-)

i did have 2 girls availble at the time but she only wanted the one so another reason that makes me think shes good too
and would they pay full price for a puppy or look for cheaper ones
im just looking for good points too and not all bad
thanks

We posted at the same time. :-D

Well, you will have to take the bull by the horns, phone the lady and tell her you were looking at where she lives and what you think is there and can she please verify.

If the worst is true, you have entered into a legal contract in taking a deposit, but hopefully she will not wish to pursue the pup in court if you now refuse her a pup and send her deposit back pronto.

Never take deposits if not sure of someone, things can always backfire..........

Just be brave and blunt as it is your pups future you are fighting for here, you have to be tough and precise when vetting, if you feel intimidated or get flustered write down what you want to ask and what your answer will be and phone tonight, don't let things drag on and don't wind yourself up any longer just get on the phone and find out what you need to know. :-)

>i know if it is a farm they dont kc them

As long as both parents are registered and the same breed then the puppies can be registered.

There are people on here who breed both cats and dogs, and are perfectly respectable. Running a boarding kennel or a cattery isn't anything to be wary of either.

Google the phone number; you can find out an awful lot that way.

if in doubt cant you get a member of your breed club that lives nearby to pay a visit? or if in doubt dont!

ive put the phone number into google and it just comes up boarding kennels/cattery and they do dog grooming too
no sign at all of any puppies for sale.
she never mentioned anything about having boarding kennels and it wasnt somthing that i asked

That sounds all above board so far. If someone runs a boarding kennels then they're not going to be leaving the pup home alone 9-5 five days a week, so that's promising. :-)

thats what i was thinking ive even put in mobile number and nothing comes up,
thanks all for the replies i seem a bit happier now but will ring her in morning

If you haven't already, why not ask what their plans will be should they go on holidays. If it's above board the immediate answer would be that they own a boarding kennels and grooming parlour so the puppy will be cared for by their staff?

Are your puppies endorsed and do you get new owners to sign any type of agreement?

> Are your puppies endorsed

Won't help much if they are a breed that sell well without papers, but would put off someone wanting a cash cow if not.

hi just a quick update ive spoken to the  husband to ask if they had my breed before last time asked the wife he said a cross,
ive just phoned the kennel club and they have said she has a dog registered with them 2009 and feb this year a male same breed as mine.
they have lied to me and would like to know where i stand with returning the deposit,
any advice would be great thanks

Where you stand is that you have legally promised them a pup, you are entitled to keep the money if they pull out (though that is up to the breeders discretion) if the pup promised dies you legally have to return the deposit, if the litter does not have enough pups, you legally have to return the deposit on hold, if in the deposit contract you gave yourself a 'get out' clause if anything is not to your satisfaction or criteria you can just return the deposit.

Anything other than those and you are legally bound!

But, don't panic just yet, things only get messy if the 'new owners' wish to take you to court over it, most won't, but a small percentage may.

If I were you and you may well be given other advice but this is what I would do, is write a letter (copy it) addressing the reasons why you are now returning the deposit, send a cheque for the returned deposit (as traceable)  photocopy everything and post it off to them recorded delivery.

If they just accept it you are very lucky, if they don't and kick up a fuss, hold onto your pup and call their bluff to see if they will take you to court, but you must return that deposit, a small claims court may well stand by you for your reasons and the fact that you have returned the cheque with your proof, but it could go either way if forced.

Please do not ever take a deposit without a 'get out' clause, and I will have my fingers crossed that everything will turn out for you.

Carrington ...are you serious? If I take a deposit for a puppy ,and simply change my mind am I not entitled to give that deposit back and call it quits ?

Why not just return the deposit and move on :-)

It will save a lot of hassle and better to spend time vetting other prospective better buyers than waste any more energy on them :-)

so pleased you have found out I have no idea of the law on this but really hope it works out for you and the pup

It is my understanding that no one can false you to sell them an item, just return the deposit and either state that you have nothing that you consider will be suitable for them or exactly as you have said they did not tell you the truth so you are withdrawing from the deal.