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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / demanding puppy
- By dogs4life [gb] Date 07.05.12 09:23 UTC
i kept a puppy back when i mated my girl, she is a very loving confident puppy and gets on well with my other dogs, my problem is when i crate her on a nighttime she screams all night long and if i have to crate her at anytime during the day she does the same, if the crate is open she will be happy to go in and i have tried to make it a good experience for her with toys and treats, but now it's getting to the point we are getting very little sleep , i have tried ignoring her but thats not working, i know theres nothing physically wrong with her because when i do let her out she's very quiet and content, can anyone advice me please , thanks
- By ginjaninja [gb] Date 07.05.12 09:32 UTC
Can you move the crate into your bedroom at night?  Then you can comfort her with your voice and hands, and she knows you are close.  Although this is a short-term fix as it doesn't sound like she has learnt to be on her own.  Can you make occasions for her to be on her own more if she is always with the other dogs.  Eg; training class, walks.

It sounds like she needs to learn a little independence.  I think from reading your post that you let her out when she cries (& then she is quiet)?  Unfortunately this does reinforce the behaviour.  I would try crating her during the day - having her where she can see you pottering about.  Put her in the crate when she is sleepy, and has been to the toilet.  Decide on a short amount of time - put a timer on it (maybe as short as a couple of minutes), and don't let her out until the time is up.  Ideally she should be quiet when you let her out - but that sounds like you might have a long and distressing wait.  Build this up a little every day.

Good luck!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 07.05.12 09:34 UTC
What about simply leaving the crate door open in a room with easily cleaned floors and puppy proofed.  Alternatively attach a puppy pen to the crate.  What were her night accommodations prior to this, is there any reason these could not continue?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 07.05.12 09:42 UTC
If she can't sleep with the other dogs then I'd leave the crate door open and surround it with puppy panels to make a secure playpen.
- By Carrington Date 07.05.12 09:59 UTC
She obviously wishes to stay part of the pack with her mum and your other dogs, pretty normal behaviour, to her she is being seperated and quite rightly does not like it.

Her crate is her den, not somewhere she is segregated from her family, which is how she is at the moment viewing a locked crate. It is often very easy to crate a pup brought in from elsewhere, as everything is new and different and bonding with the other dogs takes a little time, you have a pup who has grown up in your home, lost her siblings, probably enjoys being with her pack during the daytime and most of the night but is then segregated, she's unhappy.

This should not be viewed as a problem for the future in her being unable to cope with being seperate, it is just for now.

You can either do as suggested and take the crate upstairs with you or allow her to be with her pack, I once had a pup like this who would not take to the segregated whelping area once the rest of the litter had gone, in the end I just thought what the heck, I'm up at 4am to toilet train anyway hopefully the pup will wait until then and I just allowed the pup to join her mum she snuggled up to her and slept like a baby no mess, no toileting, everything was calm and happy, it did not hinder her learning to be seperate when older but as a pup for those first few weeks without siblings she needed not to be alone.

Your other dogs will no doubt keep her in order and she should sleep well if you tried this.

Now, whenever I've bought a pup in it is a different story, I don't crate (I actually don't like crates) but I have a segregated area, but I do think it sometimes can be different with your home reared pups.

You just have to go with the flow, sometimes everything ticks along nicely, other times you have to just go with the flow, all pups have different personalities and characters so you do what works best for that particular pup. :-)
- By japmum [gb] Date 07.05.12 14:06 UTC
I had this problem once with a pup,not one of my own ,but a one that I socialised for hearing dogs. She came to me at 12 weeks old as the lady who was socialising her prior to that said she screamed the house down every night and her husband was not prepared to put up with this.

The first night I crated her and she did whine almost all night long,so the second night I put her in the kitchen with all my dogs,sectioning it off with puppy panels,and I never had a problem with her crying again.She just wanted to be near the others.

She never had issues with seperation anxiety as an adult and became a very confident little dog
- By judgedredd [gb] Date 07.05.12 17:52 UTC
i never knew a puppy could scream as loud and as long as the one we had,
at the time daughter needed sleep as she was sitting exams and after hours and i mean hours i got up picked her out of her crate dumped her on the end of my bed, yes i know making a rod for my own back and she has slept there every since  she is 18 months old  now
, she has twice woken my husband up when he has been in difficulty at night and he has been able to give me a nudge and call for the doc, so she is allowed to stop on the bed,
we have since got a 6 month old puppy in the house and first night crate as he was used to crate he barked and screamed then went to sleep but then at 2pm kicked off again i let him out for a pee he did not want to go, but would not settle so put him with the pack we are in a bungalow and kept my bedroom door open so i could hear him and settled at the bedroom door with the others and has been there for the past 4 weeks he has been brilliant.
so each one was different, i could not let them scream as i have neighbours and i had to think of them as well
- By Zan [gb] Date 07.05.12 19:09 UTC
Excellent post Carrington.I would leave her with her pack if it was me.
- By Pinky Date 07.05.12 20:37 UTC
I kept a pup from my recent litter, a happy girl that has fitted well with her mum and my 4 other girls, after all of the other pup's had gone I continued to contain her in the pen and boy did she shout.

Had me up at all hours for 3 days. So I decided what the heck just let her free and I left the pen open, not a peep not a sound and I got to stay in bed till past 7.30am.
I have got tiled floors and mum is a gross poo eater but I don't care pup is happy and I'm getting sleep
Pup now wanders free and loose with the pack, happy pup, happy house, happy me
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / demanding puppy

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