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Topic Dog Boards / General / Hungarian Kennel Club
- By chaumsong Date 26.04.12 12:48 UTC
I know it probably won't affect anyone here but it's looking like the end of the Hungarian Kennel Club, which is an FCI member, as the Hungarian government has passed a law saying that from 15th May this year only government departments can register animals, including puppies or kittens. It's of concern to me as The Hungarian Kennel Club recognise Silkens so if the World or European shows were held there silkens could compete (as they did at the European Show in Slovenia).

This is an excerpt from a Hungarian dog shower/breeder...

MEOE (Hungarian Kennel Club) is the official hungarian member of FCI.

You might see the confusing posts here on FB about the club, and all you can understand that's something wrong is going on, but have no idea what the problem exactly is? Now I'm trying to let you know.

Hungarian agricultural ministry pushed thru a regulation what modifies the hungarian law about animal breeding, including dog and cat breeding. After the 15. of May 2012, only  goverment recognized dog breeding associations (so called ETSZ, and their national alliance, the so called MESZSZ) will be permitted to issue pedigrees for dogs, create regulations
about breeding and control breeding, qualify brood bitches and stud dogs, and so on.

MEOE is not state recognized by time, so the over 100 years tradition might end because of the high penalties and fines MEOE can be penalized with, in case of continuation dog registration activity and all other above mentioned things in connection with dog breeding. The problem is that ETSZ organisations and the MESZSZ are NOT recognized by FCI, and most of the hungarian dog people don't want to leave the 113 years old MEOE and join some new and immature organization what won't be able to carry on. Plus FCI declared they won't recognize any other organizations in Hungary but MEOE.

So we are in catch 22 now: MEOE wont't be able to issue pedigrees, determine and control breeding after 15. of May, while the ETSZ organizations and MESZSZ have no FCI registration, and they don't look like they were ready to continue the work of MEOE. We don't know the future of hungarian dog breeding...if there is any future for us at all.

I do feel for anyone showing/breeding dogs in Hungary at the moment. I then went on to wonder what would happen if our government decided they could do a better job than the KC?
- By Goldmali Date 26.04.12 12:50 UTC
How awful!!!
- By chaumsong Date 26.04.12 13:03 UTC
Scary isn't it, with far reaching consequences. For instance anyone here buying a pup in Hungary is unlikely to be able to register it with our KC as they're like the FCI and will only recognise the MEOE. Will all owners have to re-register all their dogs and what checks will be made?

Also the World Dog Show is due to be held in Hungary next year....what will happen to that now?
- By Goldmali Date 26.04.12 13:50 UTC
Indeed about the WS. I noticed the entries aren't being taken until 16th of May this year at the earliest so guess there is time to change everything -but what a nightmare! The scary thing is that if it can happen somewhere, it can happen anywhere. I'd be inclined to move  to another country!! but of course that is easier to actually say than do.
- By Stevensonsign [gb] Date 26.04.12 17:56 UTC
What happens about their future shows and their judges who are booked to Judge abroad ?
- By LouiseDDB [gb] Date 27.04.12 10:38 UTC
Would this stop all the terrible blue imports coming in and being sold for a kings ransom?
- By chaumsong Date 27.04.12 11:15 UTC

> What happens about their future shows and their judges who are booked to Judge abroad ?


No idea? I guess the judges would have to decide if they still wanted to do it and risk the wrath of the KC (if from the UK) or the FCI for judging at a show held by an unrecognised club? That's assuming they go ahead?
- By Goldmali Date 27.04.12 11:26 UTC
Would this stop all the terrible blue imports coming in and being sold for a kings ransom?

Doubt it very much -since when has people like that been bothered by dogs being registered with the right registry?! They can bring them in as usual and reg them with "the other one" and people will still fall for it.
- By Jan bending Date 27.04.12 16:16 UTC
I'm in Hungary at the moment. This just another example of a government set on manipulating  every institution
it can, to the detriment of peoples lives and livelihoods. The checks and balances in political life here have been eroded. Nuff said, this is not a political forum !

I'm going to have a chat with a few friends here and see if there is any way of appealing .Hungary is in the EU after all.
- By Jan bending Date 27.04.12 16:46 UTC
And earlier this year the Hungarian government brought in mandatory dog licences for all breeds except Hungarian native breeds !
- By Stevensonsign [gb] Date 30.04.12 16:12 UTC
The Kennel Club better watch their back then !
- By sam Date 30.04.12 17:08 UTC
my hungarian friends are all going to register their pups in austria instead. Simple :)
- By Jan bending Date 01.05.12 06:18 UTC
I got that message too ! What are their opinions on the dog licencing  rule? seems like doggie racism to me. Apparently non native breeds are exempted if they are neutered.
- By chaumsong Date 01.05.12 13:37 UTC

> my hungarian friends are all going to register their pups in austria instead. Simple


Don't pups had to be registered first in the country they were born in?
- By Jan bending Date 05.06.12 19:47 UTC
I understand that this has now been deferred until 2013.
Topic Dog Boards / General / Hungarian Kennel Club

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