i have a bullmastiff who is 11 months old i have been to 1 show with him and he came second in puppy class

what i want to know is what classes i can enter him in in the welsh and west bullmastiff society

here are the classes

puppy, junior, debutant, special yearling, post graduate, limit, open, brace, not for competition

thanks

puppy, and deb.

In my breed I would also enter Junior and Novice.  Have you any idea of the size of these classes at previous shows?  If less than five dogs then entering more classes of the the experience can be helpful, but if the classes tend to be large then not.

would i not be able to enter him in junior aswell

Depends if you are after junior warrant points  entering all these classes . If you think he might get the first , to be unbeaten for Best puppy I usually stick at one class.

You can still remain unbeaten for Best puppy if beaten in the other classes, as long as not beaten by another puppy.

Sometimes you will find people will do as I did, a puppy will be entered in Junior as it has a littermate in puppy and they are both eligible to compete for best puppy (assumign they are unbeaten by a puppy), but you do soemtimes have to remind the steward that you have an unbeaten puppy in another class.

Yes of course if there are other puppies entered in other classes , and you haven't met that puppy  you stand a chance of being beaten puppy .I'm old fashioned and enter one class usually but have even seen puppies trying their luck in higher classes.

You don't mention his birth date or the date of the show, but if he still qualifies as a pup I'd enter him in pup and junior and then sit back and enjoy watching the rest of the classes. If he is just out of puppy class, I'd be tempted to enter junior and special yearling just to get a bit of practice!

Everyone has differing opinions on the amount of classes to enter, personally I would enter no more than 2. Wether that is Puppy & Junior or Puppy & Debutant(not many shows schedule that class, one of the rarer classes to be scheduled).
A puppy can tire easily & especially if it wins its class/classes it has to challenge others for following awards which I classify another class almost. The last thing you want is an adult that looses its sparkle & doesnt like showing.

I think it's breed dependent and with breeds with small entries like mine entering more classes for the competition is more usual at club shows, though the second entries at general champ shows are becoming prohibitively expensive, often at £5. 

Can't see how they can justify that for a repeat entry in a breed class, the cards have already been printed and the judge has already gone over the dog in it's first class, so just has to fit it in order of merit as a seen dog, no extra cost to the society.

The day I won my first CC with my first champion she was entered at our breed club champ show in Junior, Special Yearling, Graduate, Post Graduate and special Beginners.  It did mean she knocked a lot of bitches out of the challenge. 

As a friend just starting out had entered and won Puppy, Novice, débutante, and was only beaten by mine in Junior, there were very few bitches in the challenge, which may have been an advantage.

If your youngster is like most of mine needing to settle, it can be advantageous to enter more classes so they finally settle, on the other hand an easily bored exhibit may be best in one class.

Like I said everyone has a different opinion

Is débutante in dogs (never come across it) different to in cats then? In cats it means first ever show, and this pup has already been to a show.

it means never having won a first prize at champ show (other than puppy classes).

d.o.b 25/5/11 and the show is on 6/5/12
thinking of just entering puppy and debutant

As he will be very close to leaving puppy and in Junior fro next shows dipping feet into Junior may be a good idea.

Thanks Brainless, in all these years I have never seen debutante mentioned for dog classes.

I'd do Puppy and Junior if it were me. :-)

> in all these years I have never seen débutante mentioned for dog classes.

Only ever see it at club shows, unless your in a numerically huge breed..