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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / judges notes
- By andyfoster10 [gb] Date 08.04.12 15:42 UTC
Do the judges notes get published any where
Ie dog world paper or internet or any where like that
The club that held the show doesnt have a website

Thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 08.04.12 15:45 UTC
Judges' critiques are usually published in Dog World or Our Dogs (sometimes both), but it can take a few weeks. Which show are you particularly interested in?
- By andyfoster10 [gb] Date 08.04.12 16:35 UTC
it was the bullmastiff associations open show it was held yesterday at glazebrook
my dog came second in the puppy class so i was made up
just wondered what it was she wrote down

thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 08.04.12 16:44 UTC
Congratulations! :-) Great result! The report won't be published for three or four weeks at the earliest, and it'll seem like forever!
- By denny4274 [gb] Date 08.04.12 16:51 UTC
i always look out for the bullmatiff write ups so i will keep a eye out for you, well done on your placing
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 08.04.12 21:04 UTC
Well done! You may well find that they don't print the 2nd place alas, as it's an open show. It doesn't usually get printed for general open shows, not sure about breed ones. Hope it does, but a big well done anyway!
- By Goldmali Date 08.04.12 22:26 UTC
Whether they print 2nd place critique or not depends a lot on the paper -OD usually does if the judge supplies it, DW does not.
- By andyfoster10 [gb] Date 09.04.12 09:29 UTC
Thanks every1 il keep my fingers crossed it gets printed and just have to keep looking in the papers
I wasnt expecting the second place it came completly out of the blue as it was his first show and he didnt do what I wanted him to do, he got a bit excited in the ring but really happy its was a gteat day and made to feel very welcome by every1 there
- By andyfoster10 [gb] Date 29.04.12 16:48 UTC
has any body seen these critiques yet as i havent so far just dont want to miss them

thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.04.12 17:06 UTC
I haven't seen anything yet, I'm afraid.
- By andyfoster10 [nl] Date 02.06.12 21:16 UTC
Has any 1 come across these critiques or for the welsh and west bullmastiff champ show

Thanks
- By Goldmali Date 02.06.12 22:30 UTC
Cannot find the first one, the Welsh & West mentions your dog's placings in this week's Our Dogs but does not give any critique, just name. (Assuming your username is your name, so surname is Foster?)
- By Lexy [gb] Date 03.06.12 08:36 UTC
I would have hoped, if it was me, that for a breed club champ show, the judge would have critiqued the 2nd placing & as it's in OD, then they normally print all the crit supplied.

I have just read in this weeks OD, a crit for my bitch from a breed open show mid Feb of this year(although the paper has put the date for their champ show..Dec 11!!).....just to give you an idea of some time scales that one has to wait for(& sometimes longer).
- By Brainless [gb] Date 03.06.12 10:44 UTC
Still not see the crit for a champ shwo in October for my breed.
- By Stevensonsign [gb] Date 03.06.12 15:01 UTC
I used to ring up the respective papers if I had waited too long for a critique and sometimes got the answer that they never had received them. I think its in Judges contracts now to send in critiques to the dog press , my last one had that in the contract and to send a critique to the show sec. which I have never been previously asked to do.
- By Lexy [gb] Date 03.06.12 15:43 UTC
You are correct Stevenonsign but there is still gaps, where it be from the judge not sending it in or the paper not printing it. This topic of course has well been discussed...lol
- By andyfoster10 [nl] Date 04.06.12 07:59 UTC
I would have thought the judges that take the time to write these critiques would like people to read what they think

I think that there should be something in every judges contracts that they have to send then in to papers and club secs because otherwise theres no point in them writing critiques if no 1 can read them
- By Lexy [gb] Date 04.06.12 08:03 UTC
There is Andy but like I said there can still be gaps & the KC ruling is submit to at least one weekly paper, which of course doesnt mean you have to send to both....although most do.
- By denny4274 [gb] Date 04.06.12 22:19 UTC
sometimes you know a judge has written notes about your dog and sent them into a paper but they still do not publish them. I years ago had a judge send me his notes on a show my girl was 2nd in junior class and won best pup and group 2 at this show when it was published in the paper it was just her name.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.06.12 09:08 UTC
If it was an Open show that is all that normally appears.

I suppose we should count ourselves lucky we get critiques at all, as int eh USA it is not done.

I would like the FCI practise of getting them at the time of being judged.

In our large entries it would be impractical to have critiques for each dog, but certainly could easily be achieved with the aid of Carbon paper for the first two that are having notes written at champ shows anyway.

I would also like to see all exhibits graded.  This would benefit both breeds with very large and very small classes. 

Dogs in large classes getting an excellent grade even if unplaced would have a measure of their dogs quality in that judges opinion, and in small classes you would know if it was a small but quality entry or even if only 1 or 2 in the class whether the quality was not there and a lower grading appropriated.
- By inka [ie] Date 05.06.12 10:24 UTC
We don't get them AT ALL in Ireland!
- By Goldmali Date 05.06.12 11:34 UTC
I would like the FCI practise of getting them at the time of being judged.


It's nice when that happens (and at the BSD companionship shows we always get this) but I'd hate to not be able to read the critiques for the OTHER dogs too. (Again the breed clubs print them in in the membership journals.) At the World Show last year our judge ONLY gave a verbal critique which wasn't much cop really as then you had to rely on memory -plus I got mine second hand as I did not handle.
- By Nova Date 05.06.12 11:42 UTC
Would be happy to give a verbal critique whilst still in the ring but the idea of having to hand in a written critique at the show fills me with horror and I don't think anyone would understand my appalling spelling or my hand writing.

Suppose if there was a secretarial room set aside where you went to dictate your thoughts to a typist who then printed it out would be ok in fact that would be good, but imagine the cost if you needed a typist for each judge to give a critique for the whole entry.
- By PDAE [gb] Date 05.06.12 12:09 UTC
You could have a dictaphone LOL!

I didn't have a critique on my dogs for a show last year which was a champ show and never saw one from the year before by the same judge so I just sent them a nice e-mail and they replied back to me with the critiques of the show.
- By Goldmali Date 05.06.12 13:14 UTC
I don't think anyone would understand my appalling spelling or my hand writing.

The JUDGE doesn't write it, an extra steward does! The judge only dictates. At our breed shows you may often even have foreign judges dictating in French or similar, and the transcriber has to translate as well.
- By Nova Date 05.06.12 13:48 UTC
The JUDGE doesn't write it, an extra steward does!
Oh well that would be no problem then, contrary to possible opinion I do know what I like or not about the dogs I judge.

Guess it would be a problem if I were the steward though LOL!!!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.06.12 15:29 UTC
Oh the crits should still go in the papers for the whole entry, but at least the owners would have those for their own dog in full.
- By klb [gb] Date 05.06.12 19:01 UTC
at Dortmund in May the ring secretary typed the individual critiques .... No iffy handwriting in German to try and translate :)
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