I have been meaning for a while to get my  puppy who is now 11m chipped... (my other dogs are chipped done by my own vet) so as I was nipping to PAH to have him weighed  I asked how much they charge ..£20 as they had a free slot I decided to get it done... I am now fuming  with myself ... my hubby held him while she popped the needle in ..well I have never seen so much blood .. it poured out of him all over the floor and all over his coat... I asked her if this was normal... she said some dogs do bleed.. she got through load of cotton wool before it stopped.. I am now worried that it will scab and maybe he will loose some coat.. he is a show dog ... I have been fuming all night and feel like making a complaint but need to know if this can happen before I do.

I know some people are known to be better at this than others but she was a vet..

Roni

It is a relatively big needle so I would think she tore a blood vessel, it will heal OK and there should be no coat loss the hole in the skin is not that large guess about 2mm

One of mine done at 12 weeks by the Vet bled quite heavily, I was rather shocked as it was the first one I had done as a puppy.

I have had several done since, and one at only 7 weeks and not had them bleed like that again.

Nova .. this is what my OH said ..I know its a big needle but I have never seen so much blood ... I felt terrible for my baby boy... he was happy when he went in then when she hurt him he was hiding from her ... I am sure she isnt very experienced at doing it and feel I need to complain.
I said a few thing to her but it seemed to go over her head... I am fiery and my OH gave me the eye to keep it shut.!

What if I dont complain and it does mess up his coat growth ... if it scabs over or such.

thanks Brainless ... did you get them all done by the same person ? do you think some are better at it then others?

Was not dismissing your concern more trying to say it is not likely to cause a problem with coat growth as the actual hole is not large but the vet must have torn a blood vessel.

I had my Harry chipped at Crufts one year. Luckily it was after his class because he too bled like crazy, and didn't want anyone's hands going ver his shoulders for some months afterwards. There are some quite major blood vessels in the shoulder area, and it's easy to nick one.

Hi Nova didnt think you were dismissing it at all.... thanks for your reply put it more into perspective for me.. I worry to much.. :)

Thanks JJ phew feel better about it now...

>do you think some are better at it then others?

A resounding 100% yes from me.

It's a long while since my veterinary surgery announced that nurses would be giving second vaccs in future, and also putting microchips in.

I took a small breed pup for her first jab and puppy check with my fav vet.  No problem.  The second jab was given by a nurse.  She pulled the skin up on the back of the neck, and stuck the needle right through to the other side, shooting the vaccine all over my hand.

I was seething.  I have never, ever accepted an appointment with a nurse for vaccinations since.  If someone new tries to persuade me to book with a nurse, I am just insistent.  To be fair, even if they don't like it, I spend so much there that they always say that I paid for the new extention to be built!  :-)

I have never accepted an appointment with a nurse for chipping "just in case."   I have only ever had a different vet once, wasn't happy, so always book it for my fav vet.  But even though he insists that "anybody" can do it, I always say, well I want you to do it.

One of my 4 year old girls will be spayed next month, and I still ask when he is operating, although I am perfectly aware that any vet could do it. 

Roni, I think we all have a vet that we will put trust in more than others.

When I took the course I was told to always tell people there could be bleeding-and that you could be virtually guaranteed that the only animals that WOULD bleed, would be white ones. :)

different people with each

>virtually guaranteed that the only animals that WOULD bleed, would be white ones. :-)

WOW!  Is that right?  I've never actually had a pup bleed.  I only ever had one pup cry, and it's the only pup that wasn't chipped by my own vet. 

>and that you could be virtually guaranteed that the only animals that WOULD bleed, would be white ones.

Yep! But of course that's only because you can see the blood so much more easily on a light animal than a dark one. :-) It's the same with vaccinations - my old vet could be 99% certain that a Samoyed pup would bleed with vaccinations (this was in the days before microchipping) and horrify the owner. With my dals he'd always try to vaccinate into a spot, so any bleeding didn't show!

My youngest Vino bled like a stuck pig.... and it was done by my vet whome I have great trust in, it just happens sometimes. 
I hate having it done but feel the small amount of trauma to a pup is soon forgotten and safety is paramount.
Aileen

I microchip my own pups have done my own dogs and other peoples.

Iv had a litter of puppies needed doing 5 to be exact..9 weeks old toy breed....3 puppies accepted it and went back in their pen skipping around as before(braison little sausages) one bled on his neck for a while,little spots even with pressure appied and the little girl screamed to high heaven and cried on the breeders lap for a good 20 minutes...im experienced in this as i do it ALLLL the time..im not nervous although i hate stabbing them, its over as quick as it starts...

i think its down to the individual dog isnt it....although if you think you should make a complaint then you do so...if your heart tells you its right then do it...
i feel for you i remember my large breed boy being done at 12 weeks with the last jab,he sat still good as gold you'd not have even known the needle had gone in or out....but he cried like a sad puppy all the way to a pub round the corner where we got out and played a game on the field(cos he was so upset)....i hated that vet after.not his fault he done the job just right but my poor baby was upset....you want someone to scream at dont u lol..xxx

> My youngest Vino bled like a stuck pig.... and it was done by my vet whome I have great trust in, it just happens sometimes.

Snap!! We've too had one that bled like a stuck pig! again done by my Vet who I'd trust with my life, I thought it would never stop. None of the others bled, it's just one of those things.

It varies, some litters bleed a little, not a lot or it drenches them.... I absolutely HATE having it done. My vet hates doing it too and wee wait til the day before they leave me so they are robust enough.
I have had other trained people do one from time to time and that is a lottery too.

>   To be fair, even if they don't like it, I spend so much there that they always say that I paid for the new extention to be built! 

LOL, Jean I'm glad I'm not the only one, always make the feable joke that since we're one of their best customers perhaps after spending the first £xxxx every year they could concider giving the dogs bonus points so I could save up for a 'free' tube of toothpaste or something similar!!

Must say I've never seen one bleed like that before and I've seen six of mine done, including 7 week old pups.

Tooolz what age do you usually have yours done? I will need to get Lottie done some time, not yet as she's only 5 months though. I did get Winston done at 10 weeks as he was going abroad, but I usually wait until perhaps a year old? I've not had one bleed more than a drop or two, but they've all shrieked! :-(

Depends when they go. !3 weeks approx I would say.

but I usually wait until perhaps a year old?

I don't understand how you can bear to do that, would about theft or similar? I'd worry myself silly! I have a friend who now does all her pups (much smaller than Cavaliers) at 4 weeks because of all thefts of young pups, and there's not been a problem. I've done pups at 4 weeks myself -the smallest as an adult now weighs just 2 kgs.

I find the vaccination really hurts toy pups as the liquid appears to sting, the microchip they don't even feel.

I had my latest pup done at 6 months under anasthetic (he was in for something else) and it seemed the best way. My first dog was done as a pup at the same time as the vaccinations and he yelled like fury with the microchip and hadn't bothered at all with the vaccination.

My friend's collie pup was chipped at 8 weeks with vaccination and she said there was blood dripping out all over the place, the floor etc.

This is my problem with compulsory microchipping, while some dogs are fine, many are not for one reason or another. It's interesting the views of welfare organisations and vet organisations especially are that while there might be a welfare issue - this isn't significant. If this is going to be something which will have to occur in those important development weeks before the pup goes to it's new home, the potential for it having a negative adverse affect on those puppies which 'react' I would have said could be highly significant..
I do see the reasoning behined it but feel uncomfortable with removing personal choice as to whether or not to have this done and being compelled to have it done so young. :-(

the potential for it having a negative adverse affect on those puppies which 'react' I would have said could be highly significant..

You might as well get it with vaccination, more likely I'd say, so FAR better to do the chipping at home where the pup can run straight to the mother afterwards.

Now tattooing, THAT really was extremely painful.

I like that idea tricolourlover, Lottie may have to have those retained canines removed without waiting for them to drop out as I think they're pushing the adult ones out, and if so I'll have to remember to ask for the microchipping to be done too.

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Now tattooing, THAT really was extremely painful.

Now I have never found that an issue.  As soon as released pups are off playing and in fact trying to get back on my lap.  It's the restraint  they dislike most,a dn as the pliers are applied they make an ouchy grunt.  While the ink is soothingly rubbed in they sare kissing the tattooist or person holding them.

My worst screamer was our Kizi, rest her,who was chipped as an adult.

Interested in those that squeaked or bled , was the syringe method used or the gun ?

Interested in those that squeaked or bled , was the syringe method used or the gun ?

Interested in those that squeaked or bled , was the syringe method used or the gun ?

Interested in those that squeaked or bled , was the syringe method used or the gun ?

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