I think the pointer was robbed!! I'dve had it Group 1 ~ Is it me or was that a surprising cut???

How did Merlin do as presume he got BOB ?

I think the pointer was robbed!

Me too i loved it!

I would've had the Pointer as Group 1 too.  The IWS didn't handle too well and the other 2 group placings did nothing for me.

Why ? What was wrong with him ?

Stunning happy dog the IWS, the bed on the sryand, just didn't want to move in the big ring. Loved he Gordon, Weim, Spanish and the Coxker... Lab was nice, needs yo eat less ;-)

Oooh Sue I'm sorry.... Can't stop laughing at your posts (here and on FB!) Modern tchnology huh!! That phone still stitching you up... we need a translator for you!! ;-) :-D

I liked the IWS, he was so happy, why does he remind me of a hippy though !lol.

One of the dogs in this group was very overweight so we were amazed to see it placed!

Did like the winner though :)

Lol oh Liv its doing my head in. Certain letters on heir own won't be typed!

I'm not Au fait with Labs.... I like to see working dogs in hard working condition, not sure that was what I was seeing?? Compare it to say the Visz (Muscle tone,condition).... and erm.... Hmmmmm!!

> One of the dogs in this group was very overweight so we were amazed to see it placed!

I agree, it looked like he enjoyed his dinner to me too...Cocker went well & deserved to be in the last 4 but I wasnt the judge..lol

Just caught up on more4 and wasn't Merlin a stunning dog :-)

Oh my I think I did a good job judging today !

Did you guys have a good day Lucy? (Thanks soo much for your video's!! was great to be able to see Rach in action as I wans't there and stuck at work :-( ) Did you do any shopping??

Thank dog it's Working and Pastoral tomorrow.. I'm back in my comfort zone!

I picked ESS Group1 , pointer, group2 but i not complaning about the winner lovely happy dog :)

Yes Liv great day and I have confirmed today that the IWS is my next pup but not because of today's result.

IWS will go very nicely with the new sofa! ;-)

Sorry Liv update on shopping I happened to gain another hare and 6 months of dog rocks but the day was all about the dogs and so many cuddles but the day has confirmed three years of looking at my next breed for the next step into showing and working and think I have found it !

I agree I liked the ESS, not overdone.  I like the Water Spaniel, but felt his performance (that;s how soem of mine play) was not as polished as some of the others, and at group level that does count, as they are all good dogs.

I liked the labrador but would have put it on a diet to loose at least 5 pounds.

black cocker was my pick. and I am not keen on the breed! a very smart fit looking little dog.had lot about it.

I was a bit surprised at the condition of some of the other entries- some looked fat-others looked corrrect weight but looked rather lacking in muscle tone.

and whats the score with all the docked ones? were they all too old to be included in the no showing a docked dog ban?

I thought the IWS was stunning, I liked that he played around rather than being an automaton, the breed are known as clowns and he as clearly enjoying himself and still full of beans when a lot of the others looked worn out after a long day. The lab I thought was far too fat :-(  The pointer was gorgeous too :-)

I Too thought the lab was to heavy. my sister has the working type and its very fit looking. I wonderd about the Docked tails too?

> and whats the score with all the docked ones?

Yep.

>whats the score with all the docked ones? were they all too old to be included in the no showing a docked dog ban?

Yes. The Animal Welfare Acts, with the tail docking ban, came into force in Wales on 31 March 2007, England on 6 April 2007 and Scotland from 30 April 2007. Dogs docked before those dates aren't affected by the 'no-show' rule.

We thought the IWS was very showy and preferred the movement of last years FCR to this years winner. Also loved the Pointer.

Pointer was the stand away dog in the group for me, ESS by very smart. IWS didn't perform in the group ring .. Nice dog but not the dog of the day IMHO

Agree--the pointer was great on the move and I'd have given him G1. I also really liked the weimaraner, thought it was a shame he didn't make the cut.

Totally agree and I agree the Wei should've been in the 4 placings too.

But then I liked the Tibetan mastiff, Hovawart and a couple of others in the working group and wouldn't chosen the OES!

I liked the Yankee and English cocker, and my hubby picked out the pointer. Wasn't keen on the IWS but I think that's just because they're not my sort of dog, I'm sure he is lovely. I also thought the Lab was too fat!

>I liked the labrador but would have put it on a diet to loose at least 5 pounds.

If all BoB winners were vet-checked we might at last see labradors of a healthy weight again! After all the breed standard says: Chest of good width and depth, with well sprung barrel ribs - this effect not to be produced by carrying excessive weight.

And the Breed Watch page on the KC website says for the labrador:

Points of concern for special attention by judges

    Overweight
    Legs too short in proportion to depth of body and to length of back

Again from the standard: "if a dog possesses a feature, characteristic or colour described as undesirable or highly undesirable it is strongly recommended that it should not be rewarded in the show ring. "

Yes the Spanish was old enough, but don't forget if ever a young Spanish gets in the group with a short tail it will be a natural bob :)  I love Paco and think he moved wonderfully!

good luck to judith and merlin, xxxxxxxxxx

Wagging his tail ten to the dozen!