I have been watching this advert for several weeks now,wording has changed as time has gone by,couldn't hold my tongue any longer so sent the owner a message

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To me it is not isabella, may be blue, it's poor coat and leathery ear flaps makes me think it has CDA. The pic isn't the best and he doesn't look like a good example when it comes to conformation.

No ethical breeder is going to use this stud when it isn't recognised in the UK or by the KC. Those who will jump on the "rarity" factor will be puppy farmers and BYB's, the ignorant will think his poor coat is down to him blowing it rather than a genetic problem.

Folk like this give breeders a bad name and leave me seething.

Probably better to just vent in general terms rather than provide a link and give them wider advertising for free :)

Bit of an odd thing to advertise saying he carries PRA!

Perhaps they don't know what it is !! :)

I am presuming she means he has been DNA tested for PRA cord1 and is a carrier, carrier/affected bitches should not be bred to him.

I have shown this to breeders in the US and they have all agreed with me he is not an isabella[fawn] and looks to have CDA.

Piebald is not a UK pattern, pups may end up with patches of white on paws, chest and belly without being full blown piebald which is not desirable.

omg she's just down the road from me :-(

We all have breeders living locally who are less than desirable.

Don't know if it is the angle the photo' is taken but he looks deformed to me is the head not too big for the body or do I need to pay attention to the letters I keep getting from Specsavers!

sigh! yes I do realise this :-(

> Don't know if it is the angle the photo' is taken but he looks deformed to me is the head not too big for the body

I looked at the poor little thing and thought the same, he looks miserably unhappy.

I suspect the mods will lose the link soon but I about burst into tears at that photo :(

I saw the photo before it was removed and he looked really sad , poor boy .

Been shared on fb with the daxie folk .....they will be watching the KC record  supp. to see if he's used , plus more emails and messages sent to the advertiser.

the advertiser has already been contacted by 'big guns' and she has told them they don't know  what they are talking about .She applied  to  import 5 at once from USA (the max that you can bring in at once).This one is from a puppy mill on a watch list at the daxie club. She paid money to one puppy mill who let her down and never sent her a dog . The plan is to do a further mating to a daughter and get a pure dilute.This dog is already showing colour alopecia on his ears .
http://www.granadan.co.uk/dilutionsandpitfalls.htm

If that poor dogs head is as large as it looks, could offspring be born without assistance?

Glad it was not just me that thought the head look as if it belonged to a standard did even wonder if it was a Photoshop job you know the head off one and the body from another it could never be described as balanced that's for sure.

As I don't know his registered name I haven't been able to research him via the KC. Glad that the daxie big guns have picked up on this,I don't do Facebook. If this " colour" is not accepted then will the pups actually appear in the breed supplement, she says she has already had a litter, this has to be in the last 12 months because initially she advertised she was waiting for this dog to come over and I have only known Preloved existed less than a year.

This proposed mating to the daughter means those pups can't be registered and therefore lost from the pedigree dachsie world which is no bad thing.

The CDA doesn't show up till about 3 yrs old so pups look fine when sold and a stud dog could have produced no end of pups by that age.

Needless to say I haven't heard back re comments I made on Preloved.

I don't want our breed going the same way it has in the US, several years back research showed 23,000 dachsie litters were being registered with the AKC each year and many more unregistered, the rescue centres were full to over flowing with poorly bred dachsies with iffy temperaments, here around 100 go into rescue per year and their waiting list is long so they are not there very long.

> To me it is not isabella, may be blue, it's poor coat and leathery ear flaps makes me think it has CDA.

Looks very much like Blue to me too. While I'm not a Dachsie expert, I know plenty about Blue in other species (having bred or owned the colour).

If "Isabella" means chocolate based blue dilution, (bbdd) then this dog should be the same colour as a Weimaraner, even lighter in fact since the longer hair pales the colour. And I agree about the bald ears.

[What I can't quite fathom is how Weims don't seem to suffer from CDA - I can only assume a lot of highly selective breeding and culling was done in the breed's foundation to eliminate it.]

The "cream" she would be referring to I would expect to be ee red diluted by Blue. Quite possibly these too would be affected by CDA.

Isabella is fawn[dilute choc], the ee gene would affect all the coat making the dog look all red or cream with self coloured whiskers and lashes and no visable dark hair.

Poor examples of the breed showing dilute colours

http://www.doxieskennel.com/dilutecolors.html

Top one looks blue as it has a blue nose

http://www.starlightkennel.com/ColorIsabella.html

Weimaraners[sp] may have a gene modifying the genes causing CDA so you get the dilute colour without the coat problems.

>I don't do Facebook.

And I thought that I was the only person in the world that isn't enamoured of it.  (Can't stand it!)

> Isabella is fawn[dilute choc], the ee gene would affect all the coat making the dog look all red or cream with self coloured whiskers and lashes and no visable dark hair.

Yes, that's what I thought.

> Weimaraners[sp] may have a gene modifying the genes causing CDA so you get the dilute colour without the coat problems.

Yes, that is possible I guess. Though reading your link above to CDA in Dachsies, it's stated that a certain percentage of blues get CDA.... something like 78%? In which case, 22% don't - this could also be due to presence or absence of a modifier. Perhaps the early breeders of Weimaraners discovered this and rigorously discarded those that didn't - a century or more ago there were no ethical objections to euthanising 'sub standard' dogs.

I'd be interested to find out if the so-called "blue" Weimaraners get CDA or not. I'm not sure where they acquired the Blue [black gene] - possibly Dobermanns as they share a common ancestry (tan pointed Weimaraners do turn up occasionally) - yet blue & fawn Dobes are certainly sufferers of CDA.

Jean the youngsters at work would rave about it and constantly be checking their page on the hospital computer when they should have been seeing to the patients, then they got iphones and would be seen trawling through those at every oportunity.

Never could see the point and had no desire to join that or Twitter, I have never sent a text message, don't know how and have managed without all these years.

> and constantly be checking their page on the hospital computer

Gosh, I assumed all trusts would have a block on social networking sites as ours does. 

>constantly be checking their page on the hospital computer

I had never even seen facebook when DEFRA had it blocked from all staff computers, as people had obviously been caught.

But the youngsters (and some not so young) now have their mobiles in their laps communicating on FB and it makes me seethe!

But then, I don't need to send messages to mates for all and sundry to see.  I phone them, or email them, so only they get to see what I wrote.  And why do people have to advertise their status, or announce that they are taking their mum to have her hair cut, and all sorts of waffling rubbish!

Don't know what I'm going to do when I get old and grumbly!  :-)  :-)

> But then, I don't need to send messages to mates for all and sundry to see.

No, but I do remember a hundred years ago sitting for hours on the stairs in a draughty hallway (why were phones always located in draughty hallways? :)) yak yaking to my friends while parents tutted about the bill and marvelled at the need for all that talk when we had been at school together just an hour before so I suppose nothing changes. :)
However I would have something to say if I saw a nurse using her phone while her colleagues soldiered on but thankfully that does not seem to be the culture where I work.  They do seem to restrain themselves till lunch time :).

''If this " colour" is not accepted then will the pups actually appear in the breed supplement''
The Kc will only register because of health implications under 'any other colour '
If other people with registered bitches use him , the progeny could be registered.
I  think that is what daxie folk are watching for(amongst other things) . They know about the woman , her family circumstances etc .She will not listen though . The thought is someone will take her to court to claim their vet bills......

Thanks for that added info