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Topic Dog Boards / General / so annoyed with another dog walker
- By LurcherOwner [gb] Date 28.01.12 15:35 UTC
RARRRRRRRR !! need to let of seam. And get some advice on ho to handle the situation next time it happens. I have held my cool untill now, not let it bother me, but now im fuming.

There a lady who lives on the estste, prob in her 60's, i have grown up here so know her all to well. Never liked her to be honest, she has always seemed quite 'stuck up' but i am civil and polite to her. She has a shitzu male dog. When I walk Lacey to the field (near her house) or to the shops I am always bumping into this women. And every time we see her she always starts callling lacey in an exciteable voice, so lacey gets beside herself, and she is exciteable enough as it is. Thing is this womens dog is not other dog friendly, and so she can not even come and give lacey a cuddle or fuss which is what she has wound her up into thinking ,and she gives you a stern word if your dog gets to close to hers.

Today I was walking Lacey to the field aswell as having my 5year old son with me. We was half way crossing a road when she comes roand a distant corner, and starts calling Lacey. Lacey then (in the middle of a road) starts going mad, running around in  circle on the end of the lead, strangling herself and trying to slip her colar (the women keeps calling). I had to tell my child to 'run' to the pavement so as to get him out of danger, while I try to calm down the dog, and try to get hold of her b4 she slipped her collar of hurt herself or a car comes. I gets hold of her collar and gets her onto the pavement. The women stands so far away, just talking to her, keeping her all excited. Then moves on and we go to the field.

After 15 mins of being doing the field, I hear this women calling 'Lady' 'Lady' (thts what she thinks my dogs name is). She was oviously walking past the entrance to the field while walking back to her house. It just so happens I was armed with 3 balls and kept throwing them frantically, she has a high chase instinct, so thankfully this worked perfectly. But if she had ran to this women out on the road I would not have been responsible for my actions. It does not bare thinking about what could have happened let alone her dog being dog aggresive. GRRRRRR I am so bloody angry.

Lacey is very people and dog friendly anyway, and alwyas gets excited which makes it harder to control her while out. But this women I believe is the main prob why she is the way she is grrrrrrrr and today GRRRRRRR what would others do in this situation??? and how best would you control your dog??
- By mcmanigan773 [gb] Date 28.01.12 15:58 UTC
I'd get a bit annoyed too!

Could you now go to her house and just politely explain the situation to her and ask her not to call your dog if she has hers with her and just explain that it causes you problems. Other than that I don't know what to suggest.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 28.01.12 16:09 UTC
If it wasn't possible to avoid her then I'd have to politely say to her "Can you please not call Lacey because it's unfair on her when she can't come to you for a fuss because it bothers your dog. It gets her very upset."
- By Brainless [gb] Date 28.01.12 16:29 UTC
Also calling her from the field entrance could put her in danger of getting onto the road.  I think you simply have to tell her to stop.
- By mastifflover Date 28.01.12 16:52 UTC

> GRRRRRRR what would others do in this situation???


Train my dog to look to me for commands when being called by other people.

I had awfull trouble with Buster in his teenage phase, allthough not fully grown he was still about 9 stone. If anybody said 'hi' to him, he'd get so excited that he's stand on his back legs and drag me to them, while still on his back legs :eek: After he pulled my accross a road, I realised that it was a training issue I desperately needed to address!

I can't remeber exactly how I did it, but it was a case of getting his attention on me in those situations. It involved lots of food, LOL and was done in stages, he was not allowed to greet or be touched by anybody unless he was calm & obeyng my commands.

There is also a girl in our street that yells "BUSTER" at the top of her lungs if she spots him and will run towars him all excited. This would send BUster very excited, but with lots of training, he will imidiately turn to me for the next command (or a 'good boy' biccy for not getting excited).

It can be done, you just need to find something to get your dogs focus (have you tried a soft toy to 'rag' with her), if she is really excited, try running/jogging with her while you 'rag' a toy with her. Stepping up the tempo may give you the edge, she's at the age where it's all about excitement and face pace, so work with it, not against it, if YOU are a source of what she is after you can work wonders. You can fine-tune things later once you can reliably get & keep her attention.
- By Jetstone Jewel [ca] Date 30.01.12 16:28 UTC
I see two options for you.  Go talk to her.  Or Mastifflover's suggestion.  Isn't the latter very much the kind of training you have to do when someone comes to your door?  Or you meet another dog?  I can see Premack Principle working very well for you here.  It gets me by two dogs who charge their fence at us and one who is loose, a BC who stalks us down the road.  If you don't know how to use Premack Principle then I heartily endorse and recommend Leslie McDevitt's "Control Unleashed."
- By Goldmali Date 30.01.12 16:47 UTC
Train my dog to look to me for commands when being called by other people.

Yes we do this at our training classes. Not long ago we had a whole row of dogs in a sit stay, off lead, and the trainer walked down the line of them calling each by name and the object of the exercise was obviously that the dogs should stay put. I knew my Malinois would do it no problem but was very pleased to see my 16 year old daughter with her Papillon managed it perfect too -the dogs both looked to us to find out what to do.
- By Carrington Date 30.01.12 17:34 UTC
Is the woman off her head! I really do believe some people come into this world with half their brain missing.

LurcherOwner plain and simple you have a very polite word with this woman and tell her could she please not call your dog anymore, as it is causing over-excitement and distress, (for you :-) ) or if you were more brazen you could do the same to hers for her to understand how silly it is. But being a sensible person I guess you wouldn't wish to put her or her dog in danger as she is yours.

If you feel you can not talk to her, though I hope you will pluck up the courage (as your child and dog could be in danger) carry an umbrella and the moment you see her, put it up and in front of your dog so that it blocks the view for both.

Lastly, you can continue with your training of her and teach her not to be distracted, do little exercises at home of people calling her and get Lacey to focus on you, when she ignores the other person, reward and praise. Trouble is she is a pup so will automatically be much easier to distract and at the kevin stage so difficult, the easiest thing is to just tell the woman. :-)

Some people are just so silly.
- By mastifflover Date 30.01.12 17:52 UTC Edited 30.01.12 17:59 UTC

> new my Malinois would do it no problem but was very pleased to see my 16 year old daughter with her Papillon managed it perfect too


Ahh, brilliant, good on her :)

ETA, a couple of days I ago I was pleased I've taught Buster this. Somebody else was about to enter the field we were in, they spotted us & tried to drag thier dog in the opposite direction. The dog was eagerly still pulling to come & greet Buster. The owner was getting rather panicky (sadly a common reaction for people who don't know Buster :( ), so started frantically shouting their dogs name at the top of their voice - the dog happened to be called Buster.
- By Carrington Date 30.01.12 20:20 UTC
Ha! Had to happen! :-D
- By mastifflover Date 30.01.12 20:32 UTC
LOL :-D
When I chose the name 'Buster' I thought it was unusual, it turns out it's as common as muck! It seems as if every other dog we meet shares that name!
- By LurcherOwner [gb] Date 31.01.12 19:04 UTC

> the dog happened to be called Buster.


hah FUNNY :)
- By LurcherOwner [gb] Date 31.01.12 19:09 UTC
Carrington - No your right I wouldnt do the sae to her and her dog, or any other dog on the estate. Like I have mentioned before Lacey has loads of friends on the estate, people and doggies, and when we happen to see any of them walking either they will cross to greet us (when safe to oviously) or we will. But this women is going OVER THE TOP and like I said not even greeting her so doing it for no reason, nd it has caused dangerous situations.

I have been doing little bits of work in the house with Lacey for a while, with concentrating on me, and she is really good. My partner will be playing tug of war with her, or something similar, and when I call her she comes straight away :) Just need to master it outside now :) But I think if needs be the umbrella idea is a good one :)

Thanks to all for your advice :)
- By MsTemeraire Date 31.01.12 21:03 UTC

> But this women is going OVER THE TOP and like I said not even greeting her so doing it for no reason, nd it has caused dangerous situations.


You are very lucky in that your dog copes reasonably well with the situation (although dangerous as I agree). I had a similar situation where teenage yobs thought it funny to yell out my dog's name from across the street - wind him up and watch him go! They got a lot of malicious pleasure at seeing if he would bite me out of sheer frustration (and he sometimes did). I had a very hard time with this, as he was so over threshold that no amount of Look At Me or counter-conditioning would work. It happened so often that he would start to go over threshold as soon as he saw any similar looking teenage males with hoodies and bikes (and there were many of them where I lived then).
- By marisa [gb] Date 31.01.12 21:23 UTC
I'd tell her straight as she has obviously has no sense so will need it spelling out to her that she is acting like an idiot.
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 01.02.12 09:57 UTC
As others have said i think you are going to have to have it out with her. You can be polite and civil but forceful. Exaplin to her how you feel and ask how she would feel if the boot was on the other foot and someone put her dog in danger by their (quite frankly,stupid) actions.
Let us know how you get on.
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- By LurcherOwner [gb] Date 01.02.12 10:58 UTC
Yes I will thank you all !! I dont think I am going to go around her house, as im not a person who likes confrontation and to me going roand someones house when you have not been invited is rather rude lol so i will wait untill I see her by the shops or something (when one of us is without our dog) and go over and make polite conversation and then bring it up :) In the mean time if it was to happen again before I have chance to speak to her I think the umberella is a good idea, and I will say a polite hello to her at the same time so she does not think I am being funny, but will not speak to her there and then as not very proffesional to be talking across the road for example :)
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