I was just wondering how many of you do ur own shots, and how many take them to the vet for shots before they go to their new home? Do u only do the first shots and deworming?
Just curious because when I was calling some breeders I noticed alot do their own and the pups may or may not of seen a vet. Why do u think this is?
ttfn :)

We have a large breed so our breeder used the nobivac vaccines,which are given earlier than the usual vaccines,enabling us to socialise the pup early on. Our breeder had the vet check all the pups thoroughly and it was the vet that vaccinated the pups. Our own vet checked the pup again and administered the final nobivac vaccination.
I suppose administering a vaccination is one thing any competent experienced person could do,but I'd feel better knowing a vet had checked over the dogs for their own well being.Breeder does not equal vet.Surely it's a safe guard for the breeder too,to have the pups vet checked,because selling pups with medical problems would surely damage reputations.
I may be wrong but I feel it's a case of saving money at the pups expense.
Julie :)

Hi,

I breed pekes - if the pups go to new homes at 8 weeks - the new owner has them vaccinated, I take the pups to the vet for a health check, do all the deworming and flea treatments and if the pups are still with me at 9 weeks, I have them vaccinated at the vets and have the second vaccinations done if they are still with me when it is due.

Donna

In the UK you can only have Innoculations done at the Vets. Tha avearage price for the course of Puppy jabs around here is £55 per pup! There is a lowcost vaccination clinic who will do them for £25!

When is the earliest the first vac should be done ?

Lucy

Hi Lucy, the protocols have changed now but it might be better if you read up on it yourself as it`s a very contentious subject! Think you might find some links for info on it in the thread "Barfs & Warms.
Christine, Spain.

Hi Christine

Can't find anything when I do a search ???

Lucy

Hi Lucy, the barf & worms is in the feeding board, dont know how to do a look tho, sorry. If you scroll down it goes on to vaccs & there are links but some you may have to copy & paste. Also on the thread by Sharon "looking for articles" there are more links but I dont know where that thread is.
Christine, Spain.

wow Brainless I am shocked
Here in Ireland you can get them in the chemist

Theresa

i cant believe you can get them at the chemist ! that's a real good idea in one way .. but how do you safe guard all the paper work? ( to put dogs in kennel's during holidays etc you need to show proof of vaccine...surely this opens all kinds of debates on "fixing" booster paperwork????)

Hi Zoe, the vials of vacc come with the little sticky labels on them that you take off when you have given them. You see your vet do it. You then put the label on to the vacc card & fill the date etc in the card. Don`t know how you could get the labels without buying the vials of vacc.
Christine, Spain.

When I got one of my Boxers he had his first jab done by his Breeder, so had no documentation, when I took him to the vet for his second they wouldn't give him it and had to redo 1st
Anne

Hi Anne, the breeder should have peeled the label off, well it`s like half the label really it`s a peel off self sticky thing, & put that in the vacc book and that`s the proof. Without it....who know`s?
Christine, Spain.

Christine,
What vacc book would that be? I think they may have used a large animal practise and they may be moreused to farmers etc giving vaccines
Anne

Hi Anne, it`s the little book that contains all his vacc info, from the first puppy jab to all his boosters. Dates & which vacc were used etc. Doesn`t the vet give you one when you have your dog vacc for the first time?
Christine, Spain.

Sorry Christine I was being flippant, no I didn't get one with him, but yes normally would have. He was being run on so hadn't been fully done I believe they had done 1st as there was no reason to lie to me
Anne

Forgiven Anne! :)

Hi B/less, costs about £25/30 over here for the first ones & the same again for the second & third (if used)Horrific isn`t it????
Christine, Spain.

£55 for jabs??? My vet charges me £20 for the course of 2 using Nobivac!!!

I've just been quoted £45 for a full course (2 injections) of Nobivac and £25 to have the puppy chipped.

I'm not surprised though as my vets are expensive compared to others in the area but I can always get a same day appointment if and the staff are very good (with the exception of one useless vet who's no longer with the group!!)

Fiona
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Lucky You £55 is about the average price around here, with the Vet vaccination clinic (who is most unpopular with the other vets) does it for £25(Might be £30 now). The clinic does just preventative medicine neutering and that sort of thing.

Hi D/face, over here breeders csn do their own shots. With my first 2 litters I gave the pups their first at 6wks then 8wks and had the last done at 12wks by the vet. My pups don`t leave until after final vacc.That was the protocol at that time for the vacc,s. The vet had been to the house a couple of times to check them all over. By the time of the 3rd litter came, the protocol had changed to first vacc at 8wks & last at 12wks & the vet did the first vacc because I just didn`t feel happy to do it myself anymore. Could be to save money, or because not everyone can get the vet to come to the house to do a litter of pups(from what I`ve read on here) or they feel happier doing it themselves. I know in USA, lots of breeders do it themselves.
Christine, Spain.

I took my pups and the bitch to the vets (pups in a kennel and never touched the floor), it cost me $280 for 1st shots, deworming and yearly shots and deworming on the mom. Then they gave me puppy packs and health books for all pups (5). I believe they gave me a discount since I brought all 6 in at once (Ithought I would of been paying more). I myself liked to have the vets o.k that all are healthy and sound. The new owners are more then welcome to call and go see my vet, and alot do go to her.
thanks for answering me
ttfn :)

I always have my pups done at the vets, £25 for a full course, but have heard that you can buy the vaccine in Eire for about £7 for the two shots, , and have it sent here so I can understand why breeders do this. But is it legal to buy vaccine from Eire and administer it if you are not a vet - anybody know?

Hi WL, don`t know about if it`s legal or not, but I`d just like to say that anyone one doing it themselves must transport them in a ice box as vacc need to be maintained at a steady temp.
Christine, Spain.

you can vaccinate your dogs if you wish for your own peace of mind only it does not stand for anything like kennelising etc you must produce a vet signed certificate in uk it is just for putting the owners mind at peace and if you never intend to board your dogs in kennels etc or go abroad with your pet the diy would be ok for some owners.

Hi Janney, no matter who gives the vacc, be it a vet or a lay person, providing the vacc has been bought, transported & kept in optimum temp that it is required to be, the vaccine should do the job it is supposed to do. It is not just for putting "the owners mind at rest". Whether or not is is legal or accepted by kennels is another matter.
Christine, Spain.

Hi. I am sure to take some serious flack for this but I vaccinate my own dogs. In the US, we must have the rabies vaccination given by a vet. I vaccinate my yorkie puppies at 6, 9 and 12 weeks. My vet provides 24 hr emergency service and lives 6 minutes from my home. I always call the office the day of the immunizations so that the office can be on "standby" in case of a reaction to a vaccine. The pups are monitored closely and everything is documented heavily for the new owners. In order to ship a pup over 12 weeks, we must provide a rabies vaccine. Since we keep our yorkies until they are at least 12 weeks, we cover everything. This is included in the cost of the puppy. We also worm every three weeks beginning at two weeks of age (if everyone is thriving). I was instructed by our vet on the technique and I feel that I have his full support. I certainly do not take my pups health for granted...nor am I trying to scrimp on the costs of puppy care. All of my puppies are vet checked less than 24 hours after birth and again prior to leaving for new homes. We hear lectures on over-socializing our puppies prior to proper vaccination but has anyone thought to consider what they are exposed to at the vet's office? Our pups may be well, but what about the other animals in the office? If you feel uncertain about given vaccinations, let your vet do it.

Chritiane, in the UK we cannot buy vaccines, it has to be done at the vets!

My brother-in-law used to be an Inspector for RSPCA (left when it became a political organisation, not animal welfare!!) and even he wasn't allowed to vaccinate his own dog - he could (legally) obtain the vaccine, but had to take it to a qualified vet to have it injected.

My dad used to be a Chief Super with the RSPCA and he fully agrees that members of the public should not be able to vacinnate their dogs. It's not uncomon for a dog to have a reaction to the injections and need immediate medical care and how many people have that sort of equipment in their houses/garages?

Medical treatment of animals should be left to the professionals - the ones who've studied for years and been trained how to react in an emergency.

The law is there to protect the animals not to line the poskets of the vets as so many people seem to think.

Fiona
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Hi Fiona, why does your dad agree that members of the public shouldn`t be allowed to vacc their own dogs, is it just the uncommon adverse reactions or something else? Is it just pet owners or breeders that he doesn`t agree with, or all dog owners?
Christine, Spain.

Having far too much experience of bad reactions to feline vaccinations, I certainly would want my dog to have a vaccination at the vets. It's far better to be safe than sorry.
Julie :)

We have had some really bad experiences near us recently relating to Parvo.
First of all no one should be injecting their own dogs. All dogs should be injected and have full certificates from vets. My friend bought a puppy at 7 weeks the puppy died. Why, because it had Parvo. The whole litter had come down with it. She asked to see the mother's vaccination certificate, which the breeder said she did not have one as she did it herself. Not acceptable I am afraid. When you inject a bitch she is protected from Parvo and an amount of protection is passed onto the puppies through the milk, this is why puppies are not injected until 8 weeks old. If puppies are injected any earlier then it does not do them any good.

After puppies have had their full course of injections they are projected for 14 months. I would urge anyone buying a puppy to check that the mother has had its injections administered by a vet before purchase.

My friend is now claiming from the KC insurance and they have asked for all proof of injections and that the mother has had her's as she may be able to claim off the breeder for negligance.

We must stop Parvo and start thinking about the puppies and their welfare.

I have a dog that had all his shots including the parvo and he still got parvo at 6 months. U can still get parvo but the shots do help, I think it also has to do with the pups imune system. We almost lost him, I just kept getting him to drink lots of fluid and keopectate for the runs ( he was litterally peeing out of his bum, sorry for being so graphic), well we still have him 9 years old and still our precious family member. :)

Iam so sorry to hear of ur friends loss :( I do hope everything works out.
sorry again
ttfn :(

OMG I am sorry to hear about this. The vet told me that dogs are protected for 14 months (obviously some cases must be bad). The trouble with my friend's puppy is that she is having to got through everything to get the insurance and my end up taking the breeder to court (obviously is depends what legal advice she gets, if the insurance will not pay up).

Now this woman lives over the road from me and my puppy has just had her last shots and is due to go out next week. My husband says I should make sure I carry the puppy when I go near this woman's house has this happenend to anyone else?