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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Is it all rose's...no
- By Lumie [gb] Date 05.12.11 19:30 UTC
The jumping ,the biting I am now covered in bruises. Everytime I am near Lo, I get jumped at, its not the normal jump is more of a shove, accompanied by teeth. Relentless launching, shoving, biting I turn my back, still jumps then bites.I ignore and then leave. At 29.5 Kilos is hurts. The OH can do what he pleases no jumping/biting. A handy hint and tip would go down a storm.

(background; I walk feed and allegedly train)
- By parrysite [gb] Date 05.12.11 19:54 UTC
Nando did this, and I stick my knee out. I don't 'knee' him to cause pain, simply stick it up in the air (as if I'm about to march or something) enough that it makes him hesitate before jumping up, or if he does jump up he at least can't get to me!
- By Lumie [gb] Date 05.12.11 20:11 UTC
I have also tried this, then feet become the target. (I am no can can girl so my knee is not high enough to cause distraction to my feet). I know this is a domination cliche but I really feel like she challenges me. At night my thirst gets the better of me and I still will not go into the kitchen to get water. I will avoid the kitchen at all costs. Its now OH domain and Lolas's.
- By parrysite [gb] Date 05.12.11 20:25 UTC
I can almost feel your despair through your posts! I take it you've tried the yelp and turn around trick? I am quickly running out of patience with Nando and it only takes a little thing for me to lose my rag with him recently! I keep telling myself he is just in a phase but it really is trying at times with a puppy of this age, isn't it?
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 05.12.11 21:12 UTC
I don't know if this will work for you, but when my male Munsterlander started jumping up I actually taught him to come up on command. I have grandchildren visiting and a dog that jumps up is a big no-no in my house. He rarely tries to jump up nowadays and he is 9 years old.
- By mastifflover Date 05.12.11 21:30 UTC

> The OH can do what he pleases no jumping/biting.


OK, so she can controll this behaviour, there is obviously something about you that is making her do this.

It could be any one or combination of several things eg:
She may have learnt that she is alowed to greet you like this.
You are extra exciting when she does this.

If you startle/jump/make rapid hand or arm movements/make exciting noises when she jumps at or bite you, you are being VERY exciting and in her eyes encouraging the behaviour. If you are frightened of her, panick or lack confidance in your ability to handle her she may well see this as a thing she can exploit (ie. get away with being a cheeky monkey with you).

Personally, I'd take her by the collar and give her a time-out in a safe area (I always used the kitchen with a baby-gate at the door) to:
a) let her calm down and
b) realise the consequence of her trying to interact with you in such a way actually ceases any interaction.
Be aware she may try to chew/bite your arm as you hold her collar, so using a lead may be better (depends how good you are at not reacting to being chomped on).

Also, make sure when you play with her that you are initiating the game. If you only play with her when she starts it, she may simply have learnt that play is started by these antics.
- By JeanSW Date 05.12.11 23:23 UTC

> I am quickly running out of patience with Nando and it only takes a little thing for me to lose my rag with him recently


I'm sure that you already know this, but for the benefit of other readers.  The dog will pick up on the above very, very quickly.

Most trainers will tell you to leave your dog if you are becoming angry or impatient, and try again when you have calmed down.
- By parrysite [gb] Date 06.12.11 08:44 UTC
Oh yes, fully aware of not doing it in front of the dog, What I should have added to that post is that I have to leave the room and count to ten much more frequently as of late!
- By freelancerukuk [gb] Date 06.12.11 10:02 UTC
Generally this kind of behaviour is a mix of over excitement and attention seeking. A confident adult dog would probably give a rather severe and scary telling off and then ignore. No point in you doing the telling off but the walking away/ exclusion tends to hit the dog where it hurts- being ignored.

You cannot just ignore and walk away because the dog will go after you and try to nip and mouth more to get your attention. Have the dog on a length of line attached to the collar. Decide in advance where you can quickly tie the dog in the house- where it cannot do much damage, or you can use your yard/garden. Any jumpy OTT behaviour get the line and control dog so it cannot get to you and as  quickly as you can tie up and walk away, do not talk to your dog or even look at him throughout. Ignore for 30 seconds to a minute and then go back give dog something chewy, if he starts mouthing again, then repeat. It will take a bit of persistent on your part and expect him to get worse before he gets better. I have found that with very determined, older mouthers/playbiters this is the best method. He's behaving like a hooligan but the key is that it is all interactive so the 'punishment' is stopping his access to you. If he is too big for the line/lead to work then you can try timeouts by putting him outside or in another room, but ideally you want to be able to control his movement.

I worked with a dedicated playbiter recently and kept a short lead tied to kitchen table at all times- any nonsense and the lead was quickly clipped on and I walked away- within a few days the behaviour stopped. Every now and then it resurfaces slightly and we go back to basics- overall though a huge improvement. The only issue for you is that your boy is a large dog, so the lead must be very strong and the tie up station strong too. Once he clams down always offer a chew and try to refocus the 'bitey' behaviour onto something more appropriate. Good luck
- By Staff [gb] Date 07.12.11 10:29 UTC
How old is she?

My youngest Rottie was a challenge (and we've had a fair few dogs).  She's a big girl and up until 10 months was a devil for launching at me in excitement and pinching underneath my arm with her front teeth...very difficult to not give a reaction!

Anyway through time and ALOT of patience she was taught unless she sat and waited she got no attention.  Whether this meant I turned my back on her - not always the solution because she would pound me with her front feet or I just walked away from her into another room and then repeat, repeat, repeat.  To start with I would have to hold her collar and calmly give her the sit, wait command - 2 seconds of stillness was rewarded with a calm fuss.  My girl soon learnt that all four feet on the floor means she gets attention from me.  Now when I walk in the room my male and female Rottie can't sit their bums down quick enough because it means cuddles to them.

Keep on working at it because it really does pay off and ahh when they get older they are just bloomin lovely :)
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Is it all rose's...no

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