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Words simply fail me :-(
By Lea
Date 30.11.11 19:47 UTC

can someone please give me a reply to reply from someone who thinks they are cute???
I put to them, I just see the runt of the litter to the runt of the litter and wonder how many animals have died to get the pocket animal.
I know I will get a rebuke from a few so someone PLEASE give me a reply that makes sense xxx
Lea :) :)
By LJS
Date 30.11.11 19:53 UTC

I saw the clip and decided not to bother watching it :-)
By Daisy
Date 30.11.11 19:55 UTC
> I saw the clip and decided not to bother watching it
Ditto :(
By Nova
Date 30.11.11 20:18 UTC

> I saw the clip and decided not to bother watching it
Decided to watch my blood pressure instead - will not watch.

Decided not to watch. A show like this will encourage more people to buy these poor animals. It makes me so mad, but I suppose it is another form of designer pet. My dogs smaller than your dog mentality.
By LJS
Date 30.11.11 21:17 UTC
Edited 30.11.11 21:19 UTC

I saw the kittens with deformed legs. Awful they were using them world record holders :-(
We accept(ok some of us) that we cannot discriminate if people have disabilities and this is the animal version. How van you educate people that PTS is different to animals ? I also have a conflict about what is an acceptable physical and mental disability when it comes to humans. I think it will upset people but I accept that but hope the people who disagree also accept we have limitations of acceptable 'Living' conditions'

It made me so cross, people exploiting what are essentially the runts of litters, but then purposely breeding small to small, don't care about deformities :-(
Showing a programme like this just creates an even bigger market for BYB's and more suffering.
When oh when will there ever be a programme on responsible breeding, ownership and how to buy from a decent breeder?
Words fail me!! The teacups are a very very touchy subject in a schnauzer community. Every time somebody even dares to mention the possible problems, they get shot down pretty sharpish.
Yes, it would be nice to see a program about a good breeder/s and a good puppy buying experience. In our breed forum people are regularly coming in for puppy buying info, so somebody could easily make an informative program about it.
You know, do's and don'ts.
By G.Rets
Date 30.11.11 23:19 UTC
Where's Jemima Harrison when you need her!

I think there were good points. For instance it was pointed out that "teacups" are runts, and therefore often have health problems.
What struck me the most was how unhappy all the dogs seemed! Shaking, depressed, nervous -I only saw one wagging tail in the entire programme. Having just got back from an evening at training class with two TOYDOGS, to watch the recording of this, I can say with 100 % certainty my toydogs are living far happier lives -as real DOGS rather than fashion accessories.
There were some welfare points made ,and yes, it is going to spread more and more to the money making unscrupulous breeder here in the UK(as if we haven't got enough), but personally I would rather see thousands of dollars spent by doting mommies on their 'babies' , than the status staffie/crosses bred by their hundreds and sitting in rescues all over the UK on death row. We could form our own opinion of the plastic surgery type society who just adore these little souls, without having a biased unfair pushy documentary thrust upon us .

Switched off after the first 5 mins after seeing the pups in the pet store in the US. ger a remote controlled one if that is what you want!!
> It made me so cross, people exploiting what are essentially the runts of litters,
That is not the case in all of the animals featured. Chris (the guy who owns pennywell farm) stressed the point that it took many years to breed the smaller pigs. HE DOES NOT breed from the runts as its not just small cute pigs he wants but smaller healthy pigs. A good point he pointed out was that we are familiar with seeing colossal sized pigs as that has been the norm for so long when actually they were only bred for the amount of meat they produce so are far from healthy and far removed from the 'original' pig which was a much smaller size.
Being a regular visitor to Pennywell and having got to know Chris over the years he is definately not the sort of guy to exploit animals.
Didnt agree with some of the other animals that were featured on there, especially te cats with teeny tiny legs. Looked so uncomfortable when they moved.
By Celli
Date 01.12.11 09:15 UTC

I was gob smacked at that woman at the beginning cheerfully saying the tiniest pup had mild encephalitis ! and it was the most expensive one !
but personally I would rather see thousands of dollars spent by doting mommies on their 'babies' , than the status staffie/crosses bred by their hundreds and sitting in rescues all over the UK on death row.Unfortunately though that's not what's happening, rescues are increasingly getting small breeds in that were bought as a fashion accessory, then dumped when the Paris Hilton wannabes realise they do all the things normal dogs do or grow too big.
By weimed
Date 01.12.11 09:53 UTC
> I was gob smacked at that woman at the beginning cheerfully saying the tiniest pup had mild encephalitis ! and it was the most expensive one !
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that puppy looked ill. no play, no bounce, no fat on him, just struggling to stand with its poor little legs shaking under the effort, very bulgy eyes. I would have had him PTS before he suffered further.
as for the so called munchkin cats. plan evil. deformaties pushed as special
sad though it is , and it is inevitable that fashion accessories end up in rescue , but easier to re home . Local rescue 85% are staffie/ X's.
By zarah
Date 01.12.11 12:46 UTC
>that puppy looked ill. no play, no bounce, no fat on him, just struggling to stand with its poor little legs shaking under the effort, very bulgy eyes. I would have had him PTS before he suffered further.
Yes, I thought that too. Very very subdued, and no life in him at all really. Nothing like what a puppy should be.

One thing that got me was her comment that the pups weren't in cages - they all had their own 'condos'..............looked like cage/crates to me!!!
also that they were out 3 or 4 times a day for 15minutes at a time...........socialisation..........yeh right!!!
and the R$PCAs ex Chief Car Mechanic had the nerve to call
MY dog a 'deformed mutant'.........

tatty-ead couldn't agree more with everything you said!! My pups run around the house (and in the garden too) all day long and only get locked up at night. And at Crufts we don't dress our dogs up in stupid dresses either!!
By Nikita
Date 01.12.11 15:21 UTC

Weren't Munchkins banned at one point in the UK, because the stunted legs were considered a hindrance to their natural movement and abilities? Or was that just from the cat breeding register?
http://www.gccfcats.org/WelfareGuidelines.html The GCCF have always stated they will not recognise the Munchkin. However TICA which now exists in the UK as well and is becoming popular as an alternative registry and organisation to show under do recognise the Munchkin. No idea if any are shown in the UK, but they do exist here. (Just one of many reasons for why I will always stick to the GCCF!)
Watched some of it then decided to carry on decorating as far more productive!!
Whats to say? Every last teacup I have seen has had an owner who turns up to group usually in bejewelled heeled flip flops, which after lead work on grass ( I get my kicks where I can) usually get changed for pink hunters or ugg boots. Not that I mind pink wellies but the manicured nails and designer handbags to carry the dogs. Together with the designer jackets on the dogs says it all to me!! And whilst these women are spending afortune on the dogs they do moan about normal dog behaviour,as what they desire is a toy not a dog!!
And as for thinking a crate with a glassfront is not a crate??? Says it all, brainless money making pure economic based business playing on the emotional needs of women who are easily duped!! I'm in a harsh mood today but I've just dealt with one of these, who can hardly bring herself to clean out a kong!!
And the farmer with pigs is on a sticky wicket as the photographer pointed " They look as though they have been hit in the face with a shovel" So no doubt future respiratory issues will abound amongst many other issues. He's doing it for money simple as, the pigs serve no other purpose.
By weimed
Date 02.12.11 19:57 UTC
> And the farmer with pigs is on a sticky wicket as the photographer pointed " They look as though they have been hit in the face with a shovel" So no doubt future respiratory issues will abound amongst many other issues. He's doing it for money simple as, the pigs serve no other purpose
wouldn't they go for meat before health deteriorated though being a farm animal?
only really required while small enough to cuddle
Looking at the shape of them I would imagine that they will be similar to the Vietnamese Pot Bellied pig that has so much fat and blubber that it is almost inedible !
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