In Lola???? She is 4 months old here

Are we talking about that teenie, tiny avatar?  Siamese cat? :)

Lol..I have the IT ability of a caveman. Years ago when the x walked out I didnt even know how to change the channel on sky.

come on give us a clue.:) I wouldnt have gone oriental but that could be my eyes

Get a magnifying sheet and pressed against the screen

I'll PM you my email if you'd like me to upload it onto my Photobucket? Then others can see the link.

Excellent I shall call the OH in to do the deed. Thank you

All done...I think

I know the answer but then I cheated! :-D

Here you are.....
http://s614.photobucket.com/albums/tt221/purefinder/guest/?action=view&current=Samsung526.jpg

Lovely looking dog, and I'm pretty sure I can guess what's in there :)

There's definietly husky in there.  And something bigger....the eyes and expression look a bit Rottie to me.

I was going to say husky cross GSD but the head looks a little broad.

> There's definietly husky in there

Noooooooooooooo ;-)

Ditto, Goldimad. Probably totally wrong.

> GSD

Would get my vote for 'prominent breed' ( as per question)

Ditto HG.

I say Shaynlola is warmest ;)

Looks like a Sarloos to me.

Aw, he's gorgeous! And yay, my favourite game (I'm rubbish at it though). I'm going to go with GSD for the predominant breed, and perhaps some collie?

kelpie? I think def some kind of working dog, collie or huntaway maybe? Id guess crossed with some GSD and/or pos Fox-hound? Could do with some scale though, how big is she?

I am going with kelpie

I'm not sure about Hound breeds as most of those have larger lower-set ears, but the colouring would work. I can see Lola has some white markings (chest and a couple of white toes) so I would think one parent also had white markings of some kind, perhaps tri-colour.

Other than that I can only think of Dobermann, although Huntaway is possible as she has slightly looser lips than a Dobe. I am sticking to one parent being black-and-tan or tricolour - the other parent being Siberian Husky. Oh - and the non Sibe parent was drop-eared.

I believe prick ears are dominant to soft ears, so that would make at least one parent being prick-eared.

> I believe prick ears are dominant to soft ears, so that would make at least one parent being prick-eared.

I'm not so sure it's that simple... If you crossed, say a Basset Hound with a Basenji, the length and weight of the ears from the Basset side I feel would almost certainly mean the offspring had drop ears. The cartilage at the base of the ears would need to be strong enough to support a prick ear, and the ear itself would need to be of a size that could be supported upwards. I feel there are a lot of variables top be taken into account such as ear placement, width at base, strength of ear fabric etc. which might override any genetic direction for uppy-ears.

Saying that you do often see some crossbreeds with the wildest largest silliest ears imaginable! :)

> kelpie? I think def some kind of working dog, collie or huntaway maybe?

I was going to go along that line...Dingo....Too short on the leg for a Australian Sheepdog but similar.

No hound of any sort in my opinion..

I believe prick ears are dominant to soft ears,

None of the "Maligolds" I had have prick ears despite having a Malinois mother. I'd say it's usually the opposite, for ears to be erect both parents have to have such ears -although of course it will probably vary between breeds -look at Papillons and Phalenes.

Ditto Goldie mad thought GSD x possibly Malamute given the head size.

GSD x Northern Inuit or something of that vein?  Agreeing with most here, husky type or Saarloos.

edited to add, I've cheated too and found the crosses :)

She's beautiful :)

Double dewclaws on the hind legs must give a clue. :-) Any Beauceron in there?

:-D :-D Oh my goodness glad I did not join in before the upload, I thought the dog was Chi size. :-D

Beautiful looking dog, I'm going to totally throw everyone here as this dog looks the spit of one of my old neighbours and was always mistaken for a smaller GSD, it was a lab x GSD, it is quite possibly that the dog just inherits one of it's parents looks. (with a twist :-) )

Look forward to the answer..................... She's stunning whatever she is.

>> Oh my goodness glad I did not join in before the upload, I thought the dog was Chi size. >>

I thought it was a cat!!!!
Beautiful dog but no idea what is in there Akita x???

I thought it was a cat!!!! :-D :-D Feel better now! :-)

Going for another one BC x GSD

I know the cross so I won't cheat :-P But, I do see both parent breeds in there especially in the face, she has the face of one of mine ;-)

so........??????? when do we get the answer?!

>None of the "Maligolds" I had have prick ears despite having a Malinois mother.

Googling (if you can believe what you read on the internet!) tells me that drop ears are recessive; perhaps it was the weight of the ears that prevented them standing?

> Northern Inuit

is basically a GSD and various sled dog cross. Saarloos was originally Husky x GSD.

We are told she has a Rottie parent. She used to be black and tan as a small pup. But has completely changed colour. We are still not sure if Husky is in there or not.

Really interested in the Jeangenie's comment of the double due claw. I personally have never seen it.

perhaps it was the weight of the ears that prevented them standing?

I've often wondered about this as it doesn't QUITE make sense -in rabbits, it's muscles or lack of that makes lops have drop ears -those with too much muscle in the ear can still put their ears up even when they are huge. In guinea pigs (good show ones should have ears folded right down close to the head) it is essentially lack of folds in the ear that makes them drop but also the size -if there are folds or if they are too small the ears stand up. What makes me wonder about dogs is that you see a lot of working strain Malinois with absolutely HUGE ears (far bigger than my crossbreeds' ears would be if they stood up). They seem to take much longer to stand up as pups (my pups often start at 3 weeks) but in the end they DO go up despite being huge. (And of course, many a Papillon breeder has had what they thought was a Phalene pup which then wasn't -I know of one that didn't put the ears up until over a year of age.) And what makes some Dobermanns have ears that are trying to stand up -that's very big and heavy ears too. And then you get the odd dog that has a soft ear and doesn't stand up properly and sometimes not at all -certainly happens in both Malinois and GSD -I was under the impression the cartilage in the ear was to blame there. So I'm inclined to think there are a lot of factors and not just a simple case of one type being recessive and one dominant.

The rotti parent is what I see in her face - in the shape and pattern of her muzzle, mainly.  She looks very, very like my rott X (who is definitely half rotti but the other half is anyone's guess!).

I do see husky too - she looks very similar to my friend's husky X GSD boys, particularly the younger one although she is much beefier than him.

Re. ears - heavy ears can be trained to stand as in cropped dogs, although some is taken off I've seen dobes with crops ranging from most of the ear gone to only a slither taken off down the outer edge and all standing fine (assuming posting was done properly), so I guess it's just a case of genetic predisposition to floppiness rather than them being too heavy etc.  That said I dare say the military crops (very short) do stand quicker with there being less ear to support so maybe there's something too it.

You all are spot on. Husky x Rottie. (well thats what the Rescue said).  Although I no longer see Rottie in her as she used to be black and tan, with both ears flopping over. Now its mainly the left one that flops. Her tail always curls over and she seems to have a soft downy fur underneath the long course fur. I have only noticed since it was mentioned about her broad head.  

In reference to the double dew claw, we have been advised to remove them when she is spayed, less trauma. 

> You all are spot on. Husky x Rottie. (well thats what the Rescue said).

Now that we know the black-and-tan parent, the other parent must have been a wolf-grey coloured, prick-eared breed.... Which means either Siberian Husky, Malamute or sable GSD (possible but less likely would be Elkhound, Keeshond, Vallhund and any other breed with the same colouring).

There are a few other breeds which can carry wolf-grey as a hidden gene, but as these are almost all drop-eared, they are much less likely to be part of the equation.

> You all are spot on. Husky x Rottie.

Hadn't you already told us this before?  I'm sure I remember a post ...

> Hadn't you already told us this before?  I'm sure I remember a post ...

Yes, that is how I knew :)

Would say a GSD cross. Ears far too big for a Nordic breed although if the dog is a mongrel there could be a Nordic type in there somewhere.

Rotties have nice small ears, so with any Nordic breed whether upright or semi erect I'd expect small ears. 

Now the Nordic breed x GSD crosses I have seen get the huge ears from the GSD side. 

Was the mother Rottie for sure or did the rescue simply guess that due to Black and Tan and drop ears?

WE do not know. But people we meet say there is no Rotti, just GSD. Or Rotti and GSD, no Husky.

Our problem being, do we assume she is Husky limit the off lead to the tennis courts (she has ran home when being off lead, I was at home sick with Doug). Normally she like to sit and watch Doug running and sniffing. As of yet she has not run at full pelt, possibly as she is nervous.

I'd want standing shots of side view, front and rear for body type. 

I don't see Riottie at all, just GSD adn soemthign maing me say spitz breed.

What size is she?

I was going to say GSD basenji but am probably wrong.
good fun guessing though

I think a lot of Husky crosses are "mis-diagnosed" as GSD crosses, simply because that is (or was!) the most common prick-eared breed. So people see sticky uppy ears and immediately think GSD.

This happened to a neighbour I had, who took on two puppies born to a German Shorthaired Pointer mother. Father was unknown; the entire litter were black, and because of the prick-ears it was assumed a GSD was the sire. (I would imagine the ears must have started to stand quite young). When adult, I was asked to help rehome these dogs as the woman could no longer keep them due to moving house (roll eyes). I went with a friend from rescue to assess them and we walked them in the park - it was immediately obvious they were Husky crosses with no GSD there at all - something about the body shape & movement, plus they had the hind angulation of a Siberian, not even as angulated as a GSP.
Funnily enough they had pretty good recall, even if there was a hint of "Am I bovvered?" about it!!

Yes by 4 - 6 months the body type and angles of front and hind quarters should be much more apparent.