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By Ghost
Date 06.11.11 18:19 UTC
Please can you tell me where we can find the results and critiques for todays East Kent Canine society show please ?
By Nova
Date 06.11.11 18:38 UTC

The results are unlikely to be on line although you could try the printers if the catalogues were printed by one of the better known printers. The critiques will be in the dog newspapers in approx, 4 weeks but sometimes they take much longer and there is never a 100% published.
If you want the results for a particular breed the secretary may let you have them. Or if you pay for it they may send you a marked up catalogue.

Sadly no results online - if you are after a breed result someone on here may know?
Critiques will appear in the paper(s) possibly as soon as next week and perhaps not at all (sadly).
By Ghost
Date 07.11.11 09:00 UTC
Thats such a shame,it was a pup I bred that cames 2nd so I would love to read the critique :-(
(Newfoundland in AVNSC Junior Working class @ East Kent Canine Society Maidstone 6/11)

Well done - I will try to remember to keep a look in the papers for you.
By Nova
Date 07.11.11 10:19 UTC

You may well get a critique published but Championship show reports take presidents over Open shows so there may be a wait of a few weeks.
Similarly there is a reluctance to report the results from Open shows, not surprising really as it would require the printer to have a rep present at the show to send the results in or for the show society to do it and to be reliable, it is all extra labour and most of the time that labour has to be paid for. Open shows are struggling anyway for both money and volunteer help so I don't think things will change much for years to come.
Unfortunately 2nd place critiques only usually appear for champ shows
> Unfortunately 2nd place critiques only usually appear for champ shows
If the judge invited the exhibitor to remain behind for a crit then you
might find it printed. I had a 2nd place crit written for my youngster recently but it didn't appear in Dog World. However Nova had a look for me and found that it had been printed in Our Dogs in it's entirety.
Perhaps the OP could check with her owner to see if the judge appeared to write a crit? Otherwise you're right - the judges at Open Shows tend to just write up their first place dogs.
Sorry, I should of made that clearer, we've had 2nd place critiques taken at Open shows, but due to space or whatever, it's rare for the paper to print them, or might creep into one of them.

Our Dogs will print critiques for third place if the judge submits them.
By Ghost
Date 12.11.11 22:02 UTC
Yes,they def stayed behind for the jdge to write a critique - seems ludicrous that there is no way of ever getting your critique? what a waste of the judges time writing it ? :-(
By sal
Date 13.11.11 07:28 UTC
its still very early for the critique for East Kent to be in the dog papers
By Lexy
Date 13.11.11 09:19 UTC
> Thats such a shame,it was a pup I bred that cames 2nd so I would love to read the critique :-(
> (Newfoundland in AVNSC Junior Working class @ East Kent Canine Society Maidstone 6/11)
I would say that it wont be in until at least Christmas/New Year. The judge may well have made his/her notes on 2nd place but may not actually do a 2nd place crit, on submission to the paper/s.
By Ghost
Date 13.11.11 20:52 UTC
Thanks guys -I'll keep bumping this thread in the hopes that if its in a paper I dont get some one might tell me if its in their ! xxx
By Ghost
Date 16.11.11 22:23 UTC
Any one seen this show in the dog papers yet?
By Nova
Date 16.11.11 22:42 UTC

Still nothing published
By Ghost
Date 18.11.11 20:00 UTC
Thanks Jackie . . I'll keep my fingers crossed its soon!
By Ghost
Date 23.11.11 14:36 UTC
Any one seen anything? :-(
By Nova
Date 23.11.11 17:01 UTC

No nothing yet, they are inclined to become available at the weekends so try bumping again.
By Ghost
Date 23.11.11 17:21 UTC
Thank you x
By Ghost
Date 26.11.11 16:35 UTC
Just bumping this incase any one has seen anything yet ? x
By Nova
Date 26.11.11 17:11 UTC

Still nothing in OD, sorry.
By Ghost
Date 26.11.11 21:14 UTC
I know what will happen - when they are posted the 2nd place will have been omitted! grrr !
By Noora
Date 27.11.11 01:50 UTC

Could I be really cheeky and ask if anybody who gets the doggy papers could check if Leonberger midland counties&Leo club show critiques are published in the papers?
I would love to know what was said of my Smellie-Ellie as they are the only shows she has been to since being a "big girl" :)...
I'm way too skint to be buying subscriptions for the papers at the moment and to go and check at the closest shop that gets the papers every week till the critiques appear(if they appear) is not very easy :(...
By Nova
Date 27.11.11 06:22 UTC

Sent you Midland Counties, PM, will see if I can find the other for you.
By Ghost
Date 29.11.11 08:14 UTC
Just bumping again in the hopes . . .:-(
By Nova
Date 29.11.11 08:30 UTC

Sorry nothing yet, not just your breed but nothing at all.
By Ghost
Date 30.11.11 22:37 UTC
thanks Nova x
By Lexy
Date 01.12.11 08:01 UTC

The earliest the weekly paper comes via post, is a Thursday(well DW does) so those who pick up from a newsagent, would have theirs on the Friday, which is the best day to bump the thread. :)
By Nova
Date 03.12.11 12:44 UTC

Some East Kent results are out, what breed do you want?
By Ghost
Date 03.12.11 21:46 UTC
it was the junior AVNSC working please x
By Ghost
Date 03.12.11 22:07 UTC
2nd place - Newfy pup
By Nova
Date 03.12.11 22:41 UTC

Sorry, Newfys not in either paper as yet but I will keep looking for you.
By Ghost
Date 03.12.11 22:44 UTC
There was no Newfy class - just AVNSC Working Jnr
By Nova
Date 03.12.11 22:51 UTC

There seems no mention of a Newfy -
AVNSC WORKING J (7,3) 1 and RBNSCW Shopland and Wilsons Redoak Troy at Piechottka. DDB. Well put together young dog, well grown but nothing exaggerated, large head, correct eye shape and colour, short strong neck, good width of forechest, strong topline, moderate rear angles. 2 and BNSCW Puppy Goddards Daserbe Viva La Resistance At Madabo. Gt Schn. 3. Ridges Alsadie Kassiopi. Bouvier.
By Ghost
Date 03.12.11 22:55 UTC
It was class 18 - AVNSC Jnr - 'Piratebears Treasure CHest' - was placed 2nd
By Nova
Date 04.12.11 07:48 UTC

Have I got the correct show East Kent 6th November?
If so there may be an error in Our Dogs - Dog World does have some reports from the above show but not AVNSC Working it does have NSC Terrier and NSC Toy but no Working.
In OD the only AVNSC working Junior is the one I have quoted.
By Ghost
Date 04.12.11 08:25 UTC
Thanks Jackie,
Thats such a shame! I knew something like this would happen to me :-( - yes,you had the correct show.The dogs placed were Huskie,then Newf (pup I bred) Then another Newf.
East Kent Canine Society 6th Nov
AVNSC Junior
By Lexy
Date 04.12.11 08:50 UTC
Edited 04.12.11 09:04 UTC

It looks to me like it was 2 different classes, as piratebear is quoting AVNSC Junior & your looking at AVNSC working junior...maybe if piratebear says who was her judge for the day it may help..my suspision could be the BIS judge???
I just looked at 2 previous schedules & only group NSC's(Junior, PG & O) there are some stakes classes but no junior..very confusing...
http://fossedata.com/downloads/pdf/EKCS_NOV_11_Schedule.pdf
By Nova
Date 04.12.11 10:19 UTC

On taking a second look I think that the results they have put up are in some cases from 2010, although it is dated this November it would seem that half are from this years show and the rest from last year so there is hope that your critique will appear and I will try to keep an eye open for it.
Dog World has published some of the NSC classes but not the working they have published the terrier, utility & toys but the other 4 groups are not published as yet.
By Ghost
Date 04.12.11 17:15 UTC
Thanks guys - I really appreciate people looking out for me !
Judge was Lucinda Burgess
By Ghost
Date 09.12.11 16:46 UTC
any joy guys ?
By Lexy
Date 09.12.11 17:46 UTC

Only one in DW is the BIS judge Annette Oliver. Getting closer now I think..another couple of weeks
By Ghost
Date 09.12.11 20:02 UTC
blimey,its nerve racking isnt it !
By Ghost
Date 12.12.11 17:47 UTC
terrible that it takes this long! i cant wait to read it !
By Nova
Date 12.12.11 18:34 UTC

Sad thing is when and if it does appear there may be nothing about the dogs placed 2nd apart from the name.
By Ghost
Date 19.12.11 22:13 UTC
That would be just my luck!
By Lexy
Date 19.12.11 22:35 UTC

Boxers, Cockers, Afghans & Whippets in this weeks DW...not your judge though...
By Ghost
Date 21.12.11 17:55 UTC
::-(
By Lexy
Date 21.12.11 18:09 UTC

Gundog group judge & Hound group judge in todays DW
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