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By Zebedee
Date 02.11.11 09:58 UTC
Edited 02.11.11 10:02 UTC
One of my boys since yesterday afternoon has been really struggling having a poo. When he does go he's straining alot and what comes out is liquid. He's been wanting to go out every 45 minutes or so. This morning when i got up he had, had several 'accidents' He's never had this problem before and is not his usual jolly self. He's fed raw and has been on it since April this year. I haven't fed him anything since yesterday. Unless he picks up in the next couple of hours i think a visit to the vets is in order.
Could anyone offer any advice please.

The standard treatment is starve for 24 hours then a light diet for a few days - boiled chicken and rice, white fish, scrambled egg etc. You've already starved him so I would give him a little scrambled egg this morning, do you have any prokolin or kaolin in the house?
If the diarrhoea continues for more than another day, or he is very down, and/or you are worried about him then yes a trip to the vets.
All of my dogs have live yoghurt in their meal every day. The only thing i have near to prokolin is Beaphar multi vitamin paste which has friendly bacteria in it. It's worth a shot i suppose. I will do him some scrambled eggs now. He is very quiet and just wants to be cuddled which is not like him at all!

I wouldn't be giving him yoghurt with the upset tummy, milk products often make diarrhoea worse. Is there kaolin in the multivitamin paste? It's really something to absorb the water you want :-)
Are you sure he's not an obstruction.
You could try some stewed carott or stewed pumpkin to firm him up if you're sure its not anything else.
Is there kaolin in the multivitamin paste?
No there isn't any Kaolin in the paste. I've looked at PAH website and another pet shop chain to see if i can buy it in a shop today but not having much luck. He has just had some scrambled egg and while he was waiting for me to dish it up he stood in the kitchen with a slightly arched back and was walking quite gingerly. Think i may just bite the bullet and take him to the vets. I am such a worry wart but it is clear to me he is in pain.
By Nikita
Date 02.11.11 12:36 UTC

Vet trip needed. An arched back like that suggests abdominal pain which could well be an obstruction - or at the other end of the scale, maybe enteritis. Paige has had two bouts of the latter and walked just like that, with liquid diarrhoea happening often, and I had a foster dobe have an obstruction last year who was hunched over in a similar way and could only do tiny bits of squishy poo.
Similarly, my lab does lots of small squishy poos when her colitis flares up badly (from her painkiller, which I have stopped now and will be trying something different soon).
In any one of those cases it's been a vet trip - Paige had to go in sharpish as she got very dehydrated very quickly and almost went into shock with it.
By STARRYEYES
Date 02.11.11 13:01 UTC
Edited 02.11.11 13:15 UTC
By Stooge
Date 02.11.11 13:12 UTC
> my vet who prefers to treat homeopathic has given me in the past tree bark powder
These products are not homoeopathic btw for anyone that might have skimmed over them based on that information :)
By arched
Date 02.11.11 13:54 UTC
I'm afraid I always choose vet first rather than wait. I know my boy well enough to tell when he's unhappy and uncomfortable. The sooner he's happier the better.
Hope your boy feel better soon.

Lloyds pharmacy stock pro kolin, bit more expencive but invaluable if you need it quickly.
>> my vet who prefers to treat homeopathic <
which he does ... I do know tree bark is a herb .... maybe should have re read what I had written..

If he's as bad as you say, i think i'd be on route to vets, you know him enough to know if he's not right
Hope he feels better soon x
By Stooge
Date 02.11.11 14:35 UTC
> maybe should have re read what I had written..
Maybe you could reread what I have written :)
I do think someone reading it quickly may think you are talking about homoeopathic products, why else would you mention your vet's preferences?
I know I would not have bothered with the links if I had not recognised one of the products.
Anyway all by the by :)
By Stooge
Date 02.11.11 14:42 UTC
> I'm afraid I always choose vet first rather than wait.
I feel the same. It's always better to get a hands on assessment.

just for stooge.. > maybe should have re read what I had written< meant to write... >maybe
Ishould have re read what I had written<
you are becoming over bearing..
By Stooge
Date 02.11.11 15:00 UTC
Edited 02.11.11 15:09 UTC
> you are becoming over bearing..
I see now you edited your post, however, it is perfectly clear this was done
after I posted as I have quoted you so why would you post that I should have reread it?
It is clear from you PM that you have some sort of issue with me but to accuse me of being overbearing when all I have done is take your post as it read at the time I posted is, I think, a poor alternative to acknowledging your mistake.
People are perfectly able to read what you posted and why I posted what I did so I shall bow out now and would appreciate no further PM thank you very much.

Stooge ..I will not be sucked into your prattling.. finished
By marisa
Date 02.11.11 15:16 UTC
Please, please see your vet. My boy had these symptoms in March and it was diagnosed as prostate cancer. Unfortunately I had to let him go 2 days later and I never did get the precious time I thought I would have before I had to call it a day for him. Other symptoms were eating his food more slowly that week, me not being able to find the poo when he 'looked' like he'd been, stopping to poo in the park during a run (and, again, me not being able to find it), sleeping in a different place (he normally liked to get on the sofa or lie on top of a padded crate), then I saw blood dripping from his penis the morning of his vet visit and an hour later I received the devastating news. It most probably isn't this but I really wouldn't hesitate just in case.
Just got back from the vets. She gave him a steroid jab, antibiotic jab and a weeks worth of antibiotics. If no improvement in 48 hours then take him back. She was concerned with his undescended testicle that appeared to be in his hind leg :-o and recommended castration as this could cause infections. He's just over a year old. I don't know enough about the pros & cons of this condition and castration. Didn't know an undescended testicle could cause problems.

so glad you went to the vet .. I would follow the vets advice.. take care and a big hug for your baby boy.
You can just get the undescended testicle removed - no need to take both. I expect she doesn't really mean it's in his leg but the inguinal canal (inner thigh region). Most vets will advocate removing the undescended testicle whether in the abdomen or IG as it can become cancerous. However this is more common in older dogs so there's still no need to rush your decision.
Hopefully his tummy will settle down now - I bet you feel better too after your vet visit. It's such a worry when they're ill isn't it :)
Ive been out for the last two hours to collect my son from college and the change in the patient has been almost a complete turn around from when i saw him last! Playing with the others and generally acting the fool. It is a huge relief to see him back to his old self. Earlier this afternoon he was struggling to get up from his bed. He and his brother have just stolen a large fillet of fish that was meant to be shared out for tea! Hmmm things are back to normal.
Now before i sign off and i really don't want to go all gushy but i'd just like to thank you all for such sound advice and for showing concern. It is wholly appreciated.
I bet you feel better too after your vet visit
I know Harry feels loads better. Thank you all :-)
By JeanSW
Date 02.11.11 23:45 UTC

Zebedee
I don't normally like my males castrated, but did have a dog with a retained testicle, and I couldn't leave it and worry about cancer.
I had the retained one removed from the inguinal canal (it was much smaller than the normal testicle) and the tiny incision in his groin healed very, very quickly. When your boy is totally better, I agree that it is better removed, but I just wanted to say he will recover from the op very easily.
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