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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Urgent! Stolen chocolate - help please
- By J.Hardcastle [gb] Date 15.10.11 19:52 UTC
Just come into the room and my naughty dog has just had brownies with dark chocolate. Rang my vet and she was useless, even told me my dog could eat milk chocolate no problem. Told me not to make her sick as it could make things worse.

Please help what should I do. Ringing another vet now for a second opinion.

Thank you.
- By tadog [gb] Date 15.10.11 19:59 UTC
how many did she eat?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 15.10.11 20:35 UTC
How much does your dog weigh?

This list is the amounts of the various products a 10kg dog would need to ingest to require treatment. Obviously the quantities would extrapolate up or down for different sized dogs.

White chocolate: 22 kg (!!)
Drinking choc powder: 400g
Milk chocolate: 90-134g
Plain/dark chocolate: 2.5-45g
Cocoa powder: 8-38g
Cocoa beans: 5-18g
Cocoa shell mulch: 7-15g

The treatment threshold is 20mg theobromine per kilogram bodyweight.
- By Borzoilover [gb] Date 15.10.11 20:42 UTC
My old english sheepdog many years ago ate a full box of milk chocolates wrappers as well,he came to no harm, not even sick, don,t know whether this is any help,but i think dark chocolate is worse.
- By J.Hardcastle [gb] Date 15.10.11 22:33 UTC
Thanks so much. From those figures it sounds like she was over her limit with her hovering around the 10kg area. She had roughly 28g of dark choc and 14g of cocoa powder.

Anyway, the second vet took us seriously and got us to bring her in to make her sick. They then decided that based on the amount and her weight that it would be a good idea to keep her in on an IV to help flush her out. By the time we got through to them and found the surgery we were hitting an hour after consumption so some would have been digested even though she brought most of it up. She has been sick now and even though she was feeling sorry for herself she happily trotted off with the vet. Just hoping she has no ill affects and glad I trusted my gut and not my vet who rang me back as I was heading out of the door to tell me the amounts were borderline and that it wasn't too much of a worry, but they would see her if I wanted.

I think this has been a blessing in disguise as it has highlighted just how far standards have slipped at our vets and given us a push to trying the vet we were thinking of moving to. Really please as the hospitalised animals are attended to all night instead of every hour and they were absolutely fantastic with us. Added to that I think it cost less than it would at our vet and I thought they were joking when they quoted me as I was expecting to pay more.
- By J.Hardcastle [gb] Date 15.10.11 22:42 UTC
Just to add, it shows it just takes you slipping up once. I'm usually so careful and as it is I haven't a clue how she got them from where she did (not that that is an excuse). Nothing else has moved and not a sound was made, either one sure footed dog or she knows how to move things with the power of her mind.

To add her trouble making, she also got the other dog in trouble and I took her too just in case (better safe than sorry) and she just lost her lunch poor love. She had been too good to be a thief... either that too slow or the top dog wasn't sharing.

Again thank you to those of you who responded and sorry my initial post was not too helpful.
- By furriefriends Date 17.10.11 12:31 UTC
My puppy did exactly the same a few weeks ago. Fortunately my vet was very helpful I took her in immediately they made her sick and then iv her fortunately all was well.
Yes it is so easy to make a mistake.
Glad all was well 
- By Hermi [gb] Date 17.10.11 16:45 UTC
My dog had an entire bag of raisins 500g i think!! Kitten was poorly so hubby called me up when i was cooking, and i left the cupboard door open!! He was taken to the vets within 20 minutes and they made him sick, what a miserable thief he was! Just wanted to add that grapes/raisins are also bad!
- By Reikiangel [gb] Date 17.10.11 17:18 UTC
Glad to hear the dog's ok.

Didn't see cooking chocolate on the list.  I have known this to be leathal, luckily not one of mine but a friend of hubby's boss.  It took only a few hours for the poor thing to demise.  The little blighter took it out of the shopping bag. 

No idea why this could be worse, i'm sure someone will know.

I've never known a dog otherwise to come to any harm, including the one who stole a large bar x2 one halloween.
- By Daisy [gb] Date 17.10.11 17:41 UTC Edited 17.10.11 17:50 UTC

> Didn't see cooking chocolate on the list
> No idea why this could be worse


I don't think it is 'worse', but would be the same as dark chocolate - so bad anyway :(

> I've never known a dog otherwise to come to any harm


Maybe - but it just depends on the type of chocolate eaten and the weight of the dog.

My older dog ate a very large amount of chocolate when he was young. We had left a large parcel (delivered by the postman) on the kitchen worktop before we went out to work/school. When I got home at lunchtime he had eaten two very large boxes of chocolates in the parcel (just before Xmas). He appeared fine BUT I and the vet weren't going to take any chances and his stomach was pumped out. Once the theobromine enters the system, there is little that can be done (as I understand it) so action has to be pretty quick to avoid possible fatality :(

Chocolate poisoning
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 17.10.11 18:00 UTC
Good link Daisy!

Admin - with the festive season looming up on us, and more than the usual amount of choccies around - could this thread be one on of the FEATURED threads please?
- By J.Hardcastle [gb] Date 17.10.11 19:32 UTC
I think that is a fantastic idea. I am usually a very cautious person and leave nothing out, but just popped these up high instead of properly away while I went out of the room for a moment. I didn't think about it, it was just an auto thing... could have been anything I was holding.

The vet nurse commented that she was glad we had acted fast because she too often see them once it is much worse. She was saying how she dreads the calls that will come in over Christmas and we then spoke about how it was surprising how so many people with dogs have the chocolate tree decorations etc. I have to say I do feel like a fool for slipping up.

As an update, my little one is fully out of the danger period in the next half hour (48 hours after vomiting was induced). She hasn't been out of our sight since she came out of the vets in case she did have a late reaction. I am still really cross for putting her through this, but she has forgiven me.

I'm glad your pup recovered well from her indulgence too furriefriends. Speedy actions really are important.
- By Reikiangel [gb] Date 17.10.11 19:55 UTC
You can't blame yourself for what happened these things do happen by accident and crafty little beggers :)

I think we can be too cautious sometimes.

Every things worked out ok so enjoy their naughty antics now they're out of the water.
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