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Showing / Are there any disqualifying faults inthe greyhound standard?
By inka
Date 13.09.11 16:37 UTC
By Nova
Date 13.09.11 16:51 UTC
Edited 13.09.11 16:53 UTC

We do not have disqualifying faults in the UK providing the dog is not vicious or obviously unwell it can be shown.
In the UK dogs are judged on their merits not their faults and against the standard.
The system in Europe is different but I do not know about the Greyhound standard.
By inka
Date 14.09.11 08:44 UTC
Ok, thank you!
So, you could have a pedigree who is not as close to the standard as show lines and still show him as a hobby, even if you never won anything? :)
By Nova
Date 14.09.11 08:53 UTC

In the UK providing the dog is registered with the Kennel Club and is from registered parents of the same breed you can show it, in theory even if it had two heads or 5 legs. So yes, show and have fun, some faults will be overlooked by some judges and you never know your dog may be nearer the standard than the other dogs being exhibited.
In an open show I am involved with we have a class for Racing Greyhounds and on occasion the dog that wins that class will go on to win Best of Breed although in general the Racing Greyhounds are somewhat different from the show ones.
By inka
Date 14.09.11 10:58 UTC
Thanks for that!
I'm going to start showing two of my ex-racers. One is not very showy but he's my boy and he's well trained and will give me confidence as i start. My bitch is just gone 2 and a little beauty who appears quite close to the standard but we're just out to have fun anyway :)
By Nova
Date 14.09.11 11:09 UTC

If either of your dogs are neutered you need to write to the KC and ask permission to show - you will get it as it is only a formality but you need to do it before showing.
If either of your dogs are neutered you need to write to the KC and ask permission to showIt's no longer asking for permission, it is just informing them.
By inka
Date 14.09.11 11:28 UTC
Thanks guys, already knew about that but am waiting to get my pedigrees from the Coursing Club before I send in my KC application. Need to think of 'show names' next! From what I've seen, a simple thin leather slip lead is the lead of choice for show greyhounds and they must be stacked... we're working on that at the moment :)
In the UK providing the dog is registered with the Kennel Club and is from registered parents of the same breed you can show it, in theory even if it had two heads or 5 legsThis made me smile,I have a wonderful CED who unfortunately had a leg amputated last year at 6months.Apart from the obvious deficit he would have done so well.
By Nova
Date 14.09.11 11:39 UTC
Apart from the obvious deficit he would have done so well. Ah, but you would have had to ask for permission to show as he had had an op that altered his appearance, now if he had been born a leg short that would have been different. Sorry not suitable for humour really, mind you years ago I knew someone who owned a dog who like yours had lost a leg and he went on to be a stud producing nice pups, so after the sadness of his accident his breeder was not so upset.
By Nova
Date 14.09.11 11:41 UTC
It's no longer asking for permission, it is just informing them.
Quote selected textYou are right, of course, it is so long since I had a neutered animal I keep forgetting.
By inka
Date 14.09.11 11:46 UTC
It's funny how it now seems very simple to gain permission (wel, it's not even gaining permission as such) to show a neutered dog (or a spayed bitch presumably) from the KC and yet a lot of people, some of whom are involved in the Irish show scene (from what i've seen on various forums anyway ) believe that a dog has to be entire to be shown.

Not many castrated dogs would do anything at shows, that's for sure, but with bitches, nobody will know so they can't discriminate. I still reckon the answer (also to gain more entries) is to have neuter classes and neuter titles like for cats.
>It's funny how it now seems very simple to gain permission (wel, it's not even gaining permission as such) to show a neutered dog (or a spayed bitch presumably) from the KC
It's been easy for years; you only need to write and inform them more than 20 years ago.
By inka
Date 14.09.11 12:39 UTC
What do you mean not many castrated male would 'do anything' at shows, do you mean place or win?

Many (or even most) judges would not place a castrated dog if they have a choice (i.e. there are more entries than placings) or would only place it last. It is still considered a fault as the breed standards still say:
Note
Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.
Ah, but you would have had to ask for permission to show as he had had an op that altered his appearance, now if he had been born a leg short that would have been different. Sorry not suitable for humour really, mind you years ago I knew someone who owned a dog who like yours had lost a leg and he went on to be a stud producing nice pups, so after the sadness of his accident his breeder was not so upset. Exactly,I was going to get him neutered,but a fellow CED owner mentioned it may be worth keeping him entire as the gene pool is so small.Unfortunately he half brother to my girl,different dam but same sire.So alittle too close.
> It's been easy for years; you only need to write and inform them more than 20 years ago.
and even before that as long as they had registered progeny they could be shown, there wasn't even need to inform the KC.
So why this idea that neuters can't be shown in the UK persists I don't know.
They cannot be shown in other parts of the world, so in that respect I think our KC are quite progressive.
By Lexy
Date 14.09.11 16:47 UTC
> Many (or even most) judges would not place a castrated dog if they have a choice (i.e. there are more entries than placings) or would only place it last. It is still considered a fault as the breed standards still say:
> Note
>
> Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.
>
But it only says
should not
must.
Been through all this when an unentire youngster beat one of our girls, as a pup many many years ago.
By Nova
Date 14.09.11 16:55 UTC

Think testis are like any other point of a dog, best if they are there but no dog is perfect, no dog meets the standard totally so it is a matter for the judge, is the dog otherwise so good that the missing testis are thought less of a problem than the faults on other dogs present.
The dog nearest to the standard will (should) win so one fault is like any other and a dog with only one would be difficult to find if not impossible.
But it only says should not must.Exactly -but to most judges it would be a bigger fault than many other more common ones.
By inka
Date 21.09.11 11:25 UTC
Does anyone know what the rules are regarding showin a neutered dog in Ireland and gaining permission from the Irish kc?
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