my bitch will be on her 4th season i tried to breed her on her last sesaon with my stud dog . the problem is she would not stand she just kept rolling under neath him . i did try to hold her for the stud dog but she was having none of it. do you think its because she is too familiar with him or was she just not ready in herself to mate .

Could well have been both, never a good idea to mate house mates unless you have a very good reason to do so and at the moment I do not think you should be even thinking of producing any more of your breed to add to the thousands that are in rescue.

If you want another for showing then best to buy in from a successful line and forget breeding for yourself it is very expensive and the pups are just not selling.

Thousands not just in rescue, thousands being put to sleep :(. 
Would be very difficult, I should imagine, going through the stresses and strains of breeding just to know that the prospects for a puppy of this particular breed just now are pretty poor.

she is my dog but lives at my sons house . she does see my stud dog regular it has to be said. i have ****** which are all health clear by birth with excellent pedigrees . i know there are lots of my breed that are bred and finish up in rescue centres which is a shame for the dogs. i would not wish to add to the thousands already in rescues but i will breed the dog .

>i have ****** which are all health clear by birth

Which tests are those?

Someone I know bought her pup of the same breed for a fiver because the breeder was so desperate to get them off his hands. There really just aren't the homes available, even for puppies.

kc/aht L-2hga hereditary clear kc/aht hc-1 hereditary clear on both the dogs.

god your brave. you could easy end up with 6 unsellable pups.   seeing loads of adverts for unsold puppies getting well past their sell by date round here.  poor mites are dirt cheap in first place- beautiful healthy looking pups but hardly any good homes for them to go to. most of them will cop same old story-will get given or sold very cheap to mates who reckon they want then will be back on free internet advertising sites free to any home by year old. most likely dead by 18 months.

Hipscore? Admittedly not many of your breed have been scored, but it gives buyers confidence when they have been.

I dont breed but agree with others we have far too many dogs of your breed atm many who do not end up in good homes are in resuce or pts. Why breed more just now ? if you do I really hope you can find good forever homes for them and you think carefully about why you need to breed form your bitch

I see no mention of show record, and to my untutored eye they do not look like the winning dogs I have seen at shows.

Blues do not do well at shows because of poor pigmentation linked to the dilute color (though perfectly acceptable) so blues are only popular in the pet market, which as others have said has reached saturation point several times over, in the current climate responsible breeders are only breeding enough to keep lines going.

As the others have said do you really need to breed this litter?

Can't imagine breeding a bitch knowing that there is more than a good chance that some of the litter will finish up PTS. Just imagine how you would feel if your bitch died and you had to PTS most of the litter it just does not bear thinking about.

imagine being left with 10 unsold pups of 8 weeks old and older with no homes to go to? all that endless pooing is a nightmare for the 8 weeks we need to do it but imagine it was for ever.

i would not wish to add to the thousands already in rescues but i will breed the dog

what a hypocritical statement!

what a hypocritical statement!


Unfortunately Tina S, some people will do as they wish not matter what the consequences, seems crazy to those who see the results of this behaviour but there always have been and always will be people who think they know best and will do there own thing regardless of the distress or pain they may cause.

PS. lets hope it is a mindless wind up shall we.

hypocritical , quite !

> she is my dog but lives at my sons house . she does see my stud dog regular it has to be said. i have ****** which are all health clear by birth with excellent pedigrees . i know there are lots of my breed that are bred and finish up in rescue centres which is a shame for the dogs. i would not wish to add to the thousands already in rescues but i will breed the dog .<

Do you have the capacity to keep all the puppies that she has if you are unable to sell them/find homes for them all?   That's what responsible breeders would do.

Could you explain what "health clear by birth" means, it is not a term I am familiar with?

Have to agree with the others, a breed which is being exploited.
Out of interest why do you want to breed? do you intend to keep? thta is the only reason I have ever had a litter.

I looked at the site and was amazed at the price of a stud fee, dirt cheap, mine would be 5 times that; maybe if the money outlay was more in the first instance then people (generalising here) would not undertake it lightly.

I would be interested in your reponse as I am generally curious why people do what they do.  

> Could you explain what "health clear by birth" means, it is not a term I am familiar with?
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Dogs whose parents ahve been DNA tested clear for the relevent issues will be 'Hereditarily clear' and not need testing themselves, as Clear to Clear can only be Clear.

Sadly it's easy to add rescues to an already over populated breed, your bitch could have 6 bitch pups and in turn they could have 6 pups each etc etc. If you look at the dogs that end up in rescue it's heartbreaking, none of them had any choice to be there.

Thanks Brainless, I get it now! Will be interesting to see if OP answers my other questions :)