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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / New puppy and older dog problems
- By stuh [gb] Date 31.07.11 07:25 UTC
Hi all we recently collected our 7 week old bordeaux pup,3 days ago. We also have a 3 year old old tyme bulldog(Female). Our other dog is fine with other dogs and was great with puppy on the first day home. Since then she has growled when pup goes near her a few times and yesterday she went for him.Lots of noise but couldnt see any damage.Now whenever pup goes near her she goes stiff legged and hackles go up and worried that she will hurt pup.  I know its early days but will she ever accept him?.
Our older dog is getting lots of extra fuss and walks etc and we even put pup in kitchen for small periods with a stair gate on so she has run of the house but can still see pup.Any advice welcomed and thanks in advance
- By Goldmali Date 31.07.11 12:07 UTC
It sounds like she is just teaching the pup some manners. She doesn't want to play and doesn't want to be pestered so she lets the pup know. If growling doesn't help (and it doesn't always with a bold pup) then she has to make a point. I'm seeing exactly the same here with an 11 year old bitch and a litter of pups. It's normal -but obviously you do not want to leave them together unsupervised.
- By stuh [gb] Date 31.07.11 12:32 UTC
Many thanks for the reply.We have kept them apart today but they can see each other through the stairgate etc. She just looks like she is going to really attack him and hackles go up as soon as he is near but if we sit with pup in our lap or carry him she is fine.Its just as though she doesnt want him anywhere near her at all.Someone said just put the pup down and let them get on with it but cant do that as he is so tiny I am worried she will really hurt him.
- By debby1 [gb] Date 31.07.11 19:10 UTC
Hi,we also have a pup 9 wk Frenchie,also a 4 year old Boston and a 2 yr old Boxer,the pup is quite a calm little thing when playing with the boxer she is also quite calm ( not the norm for a boxer),but the Boston and the pup they play quite vocalaly then when the Boston has had enough and the pup pesters she will growl at her and sometime shoo her away and the pup lays down so the Boston I hope is leading her down the path of good manners I hope.
- By stuh [gb] Date 31.07.11 19:26 UTC
If it were just a growl I wouldnt be that concerned but seeing as it went further I was a bit worried.
- By happyhoundgirl [gb] Date 31.07.11 21:04 UTC
Keep separate and restrict visual time to when you can control it and positively reinforce all calm behaviour. She's obviously just not comfortable around the pup and I wouldn't say she's teaching manners either, she just doesn't like him yet. Probably is frightened of him as his movements are unpredictable, probably she's never been keen on any pup, so time will correct it.
- By stuh [gb] Date 31.07.11 21:11 UTC
Yeah that was my take on it tbh..but today has been a bit of a turning point hopefully! Pup fell asleep at my feet and our dog gradually got closer and closer to the pup then when she was about a foot away started whimpering and rolling on her back as if to invite the pup to play.She has been much calmer in her presence tonight so maybe  it will work out eventually.I just think its going to take time.
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 31.07.11 21:18 UTC
Sounds positive, these things take time, how would you like a boisterous young upstart invading your home ? 

Hopefully in a a few weeks you will be posting about them playing together, just be vigilant and give the older dog and escape route.
They can be very scarey when they are telling a pup off!
- By stuh [gb] Date 31.07.11 21:32 UTC
Thanks Karen..just came as a bit of a shock as our dog is so loving and playfull with every dog we meet we expected things to be smoother.I guess its different when its on home ground. I have high hopes and ready to put in the work with them both so they form a close bond so yep hopefully in few months I will be posting up some happy stories.
Also appreciate the reply thankyou.
- By dogs a babe Date 31.07.11 23:10 UTC
My dogs didn't feel entirely comfortable with the new pup for many months BUT there was an obvious and comforting improvement when the pup was 12 weeks old.  Until then they'd avoid contact if possible and growl if necessary.  Baby gates, caution and good supervision ensured that it never went further so do not be tempted to 'just let them get on with it'.  Most older dogs just need time to adjust and considerate handling.

A puppy can be quite a shock to an established dog :)
- By Dobergirls [gb] Date 01.08.11 12:04 UTC
Finally brought new puppy home - he's adorable - or at least we all think so. Unfortunately out two older bitches don't like him yet :(  We had exactly the same when we brought home the second bitch. It took a few days / weeks (can't remember) but eventually they all got on.  After much dithering, research and then searching we found our Dobe boy. The girls are behaving exactly as yours are - grumbling if the poor soul goes near them. He's desperate to play. I know in time they'll all get on so I never leave them unsupervised unless pup is in his crate asleep or in his playpen.
- By stuh [gb] Date 01.08.11 12:59 UTC
Thanks both,things seem a little more relaxed today even though our older dog still doesnt like getting too close unless its on her terms.She is fine whilst pup is at rest and even lays quite close or has a gentle sniff.Still raises the hackles now and then but much less often than she did.
- By 12345 [gb] Date 01.08.11 13:11 UTC
Hi :) Ours were like this for about two weeks. 8 week old Spaniel and a 7 year old Labrador. The 7 year old was growling and barking at him all the time and all the puppy wanted to do was play but he was really cheeky too. They saw each other through the stair gate only for the first week, and then we introduced them with the pup on the lead and the lab loose in the garden. It's getting better gradually. Especially now the little one can go out for walks we walk them together and take them loose over some land and they play together now. Only had the pup for 4 weeks and they are so much better. We just have to make sure they are kept seperate when there is food around because our lab is very possessive of his food and really 'shouts' at the puppy then.
- By stuh [gb] Date 01.08.11 15:20 UTC
Thanks for that..we do allow them to be together throughout the day when pup is worn out lol..She is fine with him then.Cant wait until we can take them out together as like it has for you think it will really help.
- By Dobergirls [gb] Date 02.08.11 14:43 UTC
Well we are now on day 4 and the older bitch (8) is keen to play with the pup.The other bitch (6) is still at the barking and growling stage. When the pup plays with the older girl, girl 2 gets jealous ??? and barks as though she wants the older girl to stop. I hope this doesn't turn into anything serious :(
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / New puppy and older dog problems

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