Just seen on a well known site

Saluki x English Bulldog

Can't see that one being an accident !!

Peanuts

sorry but why !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine the Bulldog hight but the saluki coat, ooo and the short nose with that coat :(

Didn't they think up a fancy name to go with it?

Today locally I saw an advert for Sprats (Springer x Flatcoat).

My local today has Min Pin X Chihuahua... pups also, very sad 2 Papillon boys 2 and 3 years old due to "Ill health"  at £150 each. And the inevitable "Sprockers"
Aileen

Know someone who's getting a Cavichon and paying £700 for it.  Now this is someone who has been in Cavaliers for years and years and years and for some reason believes in the hype that because they are a crossbreed they won't have any of the illnesses!

Today locally I saw an advert for Sprats (Springer x Flatcoat).

Same cross sold in my area a few months ago. saw pic of one and it looks like a f/c with its legs cut of, god help the owner of this cross!

> Same cross sold in my area a few months ago. saw pic of one and it looks like a f/c with its legs cut of, god help the owner of this cross!
>

Yes and the same owner (If this was the Dundee area litter?) is planning on repeating the mating as he sold the pups for £250, no problem! He has kept two.  The dam is a very small working bred ESS and the sire a liver FCR...I have spoken about this person previously on here when I assumed he'd mated his 2 FCR's together without any health tests but it transpired he'd let his ESS be mated to his FCR.  Those that know him are horrified and he's been semi-shunned from all the places he walked his 'pack'!

Interesting Christine. I phoned up when I saw the advert and he told me it was not an accident. NOT what he told his vets though! for a professional person, he woyuld apear to have no common sense!

How about Chinese Crested X Shar Pei... I am speechless!!!!

merle chugs........ whats that all about??

I have in the last week seen British Bulldog x Bernese.

> Interesting Christine. I phoned up when I saw the advert and he told me it was not an accident. NOT what he told his vets though! for a professional person, he woyuld apear to have no common sense!

Problem is the people he has bought his FCR's from started off small scale 'pet breeding' and now have several FCR's and make 'a nice amount of pocket money from it' as he told me.   What we have all been horrified at is a very small ESS carrying pups to a much larger dog, it could've killed her.

I haven't seen him since this all happened but believe me if he mentions anything to me I will not be backwards in telling him exactly what I think.

the sad thing is when I phoned up he asked ALL the right questions, and cam across as a v caring person. even more sad is that some people are taken in by him. not knowing if he was a nice caring person he would not be doing this sort of thing. if i see advert again I will phone up again, and tel him what Jerramy K say's when people go on hi show and say it was accident!

the shar pie/chinese crested  pups are about the /3rd/4th litter advertised
mating done on purpose and seems they sell, can,t believe the idiots buying them
and person breeding them was a show person, seems to make a nice living out of her dogs
pity it can,t be stopped

Recently seen Bed Springs advertised for sale here.

If I want a mongrel I'll go to a rescue centre

Just when you thought you'd heard it all - at a charity fun show today I saw..... English Bull Terrier x Northern Inuit! I guessed the first half but not the second, and all I could say was "Oh erm well someone had some imagination then...." Apparently he was an 'accident' - not unattractive, a big dog white with sable flecks all over and a very EBT head & ears.... he won Most Handsome Dog.

Scary cross re. health etc. then.

I recently saw in my local paper a cross bred litter (I don't know why I look at the classifieds as it WINDS me right up) but after all the blurb about puppies etc it said that it was a RARE cross..... there is nothing rare about another ridiculous cross.....

A friend has a JRT X SBT not a great cross at all :( All the temprement of a JRT and the strength of a SBT

Again so much depends oh how the mix works out.  We know a lovely JRT x Staffie, basically Jack size with a slightly rounded staffie skull and staffie smooth coat.

Only negative seems to be he has the libido of many terriers of my acquaintance ;)

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">the shar pie/chinese crested  pups are about the /3rd/4th litter advertised<br />mating done on purpose and seems they sell, can,t believe the idiots buying them<br />and person breeding them was a show person, seems to make a nice living out of her dogs <br />pity it can,t be stopped

I just cannot believe full stop how people can cross and call them designer/rare, as far as I am concerned I think its just mad. Don't we have enough dog breeds as it is?

Saluki x English Bulldog

What a shame such wonderful looking breeds both of them,

im guessing they'll be calling it a Saleblog loooool

and the JRT X SBT a Rustabull loooool

Leaving aside the morals of these so called designer dog breeders, isn't it bizarre how they choose dogs which are so different from each other ?, it's almost like a childish experiment to see who can come up with the weirdest cross .
Cosmetically I can see some crosses would produce a handsome dog, but I can't even begin to imagine what a Bulldog X Saluki would look like !, let alone why the hell anyone would want one.

Its the prices they charge for them that get me. I got my last dog for £40 (granted it was 13 years ago) as she was a mongrel yet they are charging hundreds of pounds for these mongrels just because someone has decided they are designer

Its the prices they charge for them that get me. I got my last dog for £40 (granted it was 13 years ago) as she was a mongrel yet they are charging hundreds of pounds for these mongrels just because someone has decided they are designer

I had an genuinely accidental litter 9 years ago and I charged £50 for them. Now, I see very similar crosses advertised for hundreds.

merle chugs........ whats that all about??

Probably a Merle Chihuahua (a colour not accepted by the KC -they will not even register such pups) x Pug........

> Its the prices they charge for them that get me. I got my last dog for £40 (granted it was 13 years ago) as she was a mongrel yet they are charging hundreds of pounds for these mongrels just because someone has decided they are designer

and the only health brag they can normally come up with is that they have wormed them! no testing whatsoever.
cats rather then dogs but the nicest advert I remember for crossbreds was in a cat show mag years ago.
it ran along the lines of
' show champion Ms fluffy Princess (I can't remember her real name) has had an indescretion' her love children are now ready for adoption to superior pet homes, mom, full pedigree pampered show cat- dad 'dark handsome stranger'  
it was a beautifully written entertaining advert and the kittens were stunning- they were all to go fully vaccinated, proper worming regieme and vet checked and with the cost of neutering returned when old enough on getting reciept from vet- priced just enough to cover their jabs and neutering. a genuine accidental litter and no trying to make a profit off her .

Was just in a pet shop that had a notice board for customers to advertise on. There was a advert for SBT X French bulldogs going for £500. No mention of health tests, worming etc etc. Just the usual "Rare breed" rubbish. Scary thing is that the numbers that you can rip off the bottom were almost all gone.

There is a cockerpoo in our training class that the woman paid £700 for; apparently the woman who bred him is your typical money breeder - several bitches and studs and lots of wierd crosses.

Our local pet shop is owner by a lady who has papillions, yorkies and chihuahuas so there are often crosses available from those ..chalkies, porkies,etc

Basset cross Sharpei. (Ba-Shars)
Sharpei cross American bull dog (he sells them as "Sham-bull's google it "sham bull pups")
Beagle cross staffy. (Beaffy)
Beagle cross JRT (Jack-a-Bee)
Beagle cross staff (Norfolk Mountain Dog...yes you herd)
This is all off one breeder!

OMG blumerlemum !!!!  I'm sickened.

I can understand the theory behind some crosses I suppose with regards to working/forces so as to produce very distinct attributes but I can't for the life of me figure out what sort of end product these people are trying to produce. Other than a bulging wallet.

just saw this

first litter ever of GIANT SCHNOODLES in uk. giant schnauzer cross poodle. claiming non moulting (both breeds dont anyway) and they will have great temps etc. how do they know? both breeds are hyper. and they are charging £975!! outrageous

Do these balloons not stop to think what the possible temprement will be on some of these crosses ? I think a Beagle X SBT would be a nightmare to live with.

Ive just had a right good rummage through the website that produces all those crosses. It's not a pleasant read.
In one of the testimonials for the sharpei X AMB the owners mention about very frequent recurring ear infections. The breeders say "genetics eh"!!!

i notice the GIANT SCHNOODLE breeder doesnt mention coat care such as hand stripping if it ends up like a schnauzer or clipping 6 weekly if it looks like a poodle

Bluemerlemum I wish you hadn't put those names down as it leads you straight to the website. While most sensible people will be horrified and maybe like me have a bit of a giggle at the bizarrely ugly dogs produced, they may get some customers :-(  Perhaps admin could edit?

Sorry for putting them but its a fact of life. The breeder in question visits another pet website regularly and has once posted up a picture of the staff he uses in the crosses seriously underweight and clearly not a full staff. He visits the other forum and acts like a loving dog breeder though admits to doing it for money.

I would remove the name but admin will have to.. But the more people that are aware of him the more people will avoid him, Its believed that he uses dogs that come into his boarding kennel on his bitches and thats why when asked he cant provide pictures of his stud dogs.

> Its believed that he uses dogs that come into his boarding kennel on his bitches and thats why when asked he cant provide pictures of his stud dogs.

They really will have to remove the identifying information now :)

I guess what I doubt I will ever understand is crossing a sharpei and basset...:(
Someone I used to be friends with when I was a child breeds Bostons, he  bred his Boston to his shitzu.

I really wish something could be done about all this cross breed saga.......annoys me so much how people think they are RARE  breeds!!! what has happened to people these days:(

on another note I have just seen a ad for shih tzu cross staffie puppies!! the mind boggles, this is all getting so out of hand, as mentioned before it seems the in thing to breed dogs who you would never dream of paring up:( and then charge a small fortune for them......and when reaching adult hood I expect most will end up in dog homes or cost the stupid owners a small fortune in vet fee's for all the health problems:(

Grrrrrrr..............:(

i thought my breed (schnauzer) was only ever crossed with a poodle but now i see schnauzer cross staffie!
also ---stunning hybrid of the Schnauzer x Westies called Schnausties

my god, schnausties!! i though schnoodles bad enough!

The problem is that some people feel that want to own something unique, designer brands have a lot to answer for, the upmanship mentality of some is astounding. If they stopped giving them the "funny" names and called them what they are " mongrels" then maybe they wouldn't be as popular. I must say I am not against owning a non pedigree, eaxh to their own but at least with a breed you should have an idea of what characteristics you are getting.

When I had my last ( and final) litter there were not enough for interested parties so one person went off and got a doodle, paying  £1200 for it, only £300 more than a health tested  pedigree pup. They cannot cope with the amount of exercise this dog needs and it is the size of a small shetland pony :(

I have a Labradoodle via rescue.  He was handed in at under 12 weeks.  He had been bred to order and bought as a surprise present for a teenage son and daughter who immediately told their parents they had no time to care, train or exercise a puppy. At least the kids had some commonsense and appreciation about what the pup would need!

Seen on well known website:-
German shepherd x Cocker Spaniel puppies
Rotti x cocker spaniel puppies

Cocker spaniels being my breed,it makes me very angry with the amounts of cocker spaniel crosses being done deliberatly - If people want a cross bred why do'nt they just go to a rescue

quite right but its poodles i feel sorry for the most, hardly any pure bred ones avail now its all poo this and poo that very sad and all 3 sizes being exploited obv

i know lots of poodle breeders that are abhored at the crossing of their breed.
I am not a poodle lover but my boss breeds and shows standards.
at the kennels if anybody wants to book in a designer doodle she says you have a 'mongrel'.

we had a 'dolly' in a cross dalmation border collie the lady paid £500 for it and travelled to mansfield from the midlands.....we told her she had been robbed!!!!
she wasn't very happy as she had been told that it was kc registered breed, how can people be so gullible!! it came with papers and everything........

a fool and his money!! what does it take to educate people re ; these stupid crosses?

A decent tv documentary would be a start but judging by the comments I read on a board about show breeders were piddling in the wind!! This is just one comment I've read lately that states show breeders are all bad breeders.
We recently bought a whippet puppy from a local pet owner that was an accidental mating between her dog and bitch (ironically, she was a pedigree cat breeder who had imported breeding Toms from America, so as to inject fresh blood into her line). What attracted us to this puppy was that the sire and dam were completely unrelated - the sire was from coursing lines and the bitch was from show lines (even then we checked with a breeder friend to ensure the dam's show lines were healthy and with a good temperament). Both parents were very friendly and appeared healthy. Fortunately whippets also tend to be a healthy breed.
Whilst it could be argued that a puppy from an unplanned litter is quite risky, we saw it as far less risky than buying from a show breeder - someone who would put conformation rather than health and temperament first. At least we could see both the sire and dam and assess their temperaments, and we knew they weren't related.
The problem that we found, was the lack of reputable breeders breeding healthy pups with excellent temperaments specifically for pet owners. There's either the dreadful puppy farms or the inbreeding show breeders. I wouldn't have gone for a show-bred whippet unless it was an outcross, but even then the dogs are unlikely to have been bred with temperament and health as their two most important attributes.

With opinions like this above these crosses and careless breeding has a endless lifespan :(

I've never known anything but excellent temperaments in the show whippets.