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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Panacur cattle/sheep 10%
- By kushie [gb] Date 15.06.11 09:13 UTC
Hello, please before I order this can someone be kind as to make sure I have this 100% correct. Panacur sheep/cattle 10% is the same as Panacur dog/cat 10%. I have checked ingredients and seems to match and I am sure I read on here a few weeks ago that people use it on their dogs and cats.

It will be used for a pregnant bitch and hopefully resulting puppies so I dont want to get it wrong. Also it would be helpfull if someone could direct me to the best place to buy or give me an idea of what i should expect to pay for the 1L bottle as I usually go to the vets for all my routine meds so have no clue where to start.

Thanks in advance
- By JoFlatcoat (Moderator) [gb] Date 15.06.11 09:52 UTC
I've always used it on my bitches and it's fine, although you have to be aware that if things did go wrong (unlikely) you have no comeback.    I did ask our vet about it, and as far as I remember there was an obscure reason that it wasn't listed as being suitable for dogs - maybe it was the packaging or some such - not the product per se.

Jo
- By molezak [gb] Date 15.06.11 10:24 UTC
I use it on my dogs as it's substantially cheaper to buy it that way than the dog/cat version, you must only get the Panacur 10% sheep not the Panacur 10% SC (selenium cobalt - as that is harmful to dogs).  HTH
- By Brainless [gb] Date 15.06.11 10:24 UTC
It's what I have used for ever with my dogs, though they changed the licensing rules to the 100ml bottles only for dogs and cats (which work out loads more expeensive and I go through more than that to worm mien once). 

Panacur Horse Guard Panacur 10% suspension in 225ml bottles is also the same.

The sheep and Cattle one in 1litre plus sizes is also Licensed for horses (if you buy it for Cattle or sheep they will ask for a herd number).
- By Paris [gb] Date 15.06.11 12:28 UTC
Yes it is exactly the same product
- By hayley123 Date 15.06.11 21:15 UTC
yes its the same, i use it, much cheaper :)
- By Dill [gb] Date 15.06.11 21:26 UTC
I used the Panacur Horse Guard (10 %)

A lot cheaper than Panacur for dogs and cats !
- By Brainless [gb] Date 16.06.11 01:51 UTC
Yep I use that if I am unlikely to be using large amounts (like when I have a litter), as it will do my present lot about twice.
- By kushie [gb] Date 17.06.11 12:31 UTC
Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered and it is on the way!
- By cornishmals [gb] Date 17.06.11 13:37 UTC
Well I was going to order a couple of the 100ml bottles -the cheapest I found was about £14 for dogs -but looks like this could be cheaper.Thanks for the thread.Jude
- By rabid [gb] Date 17.06.11 13:51 UTC
There is a link here from a US beagle breeder who uses the cattle/sheep 10% and he talks about what dosages he uses etc (scroll to bottom):  http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/health/canine-intestinal-worms-and-inexpensive-treatment

He calls it 'SafeGuard' but it is fendendazole, the same stuff  as Panacur - they call it SafeGuard in the US.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.06.11 13:55 UTC
As it is the 10% just like the cat and dog bottles the dosage is exactly the same.

Before they changed the rules Hyperdrug simply sent me a sheet with the dog and cat dosing instructions with the litre bottles, which you an actually download from their site anyway.
- By cornishmals [gb] Date 17.06.11 14:44 UTC
I have found hyperdrug the cheapest at £55 including vat and free p&p - at work -bored so thought I would pass the time LOL
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.06.11 17:17 UTC
Yes definitely, but you will have to give horsey details
- By welshie [gb] Date 17.06.11 19:24 UTC
is this just for adult dogs?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.06.11 20:20 UTC
No it's the same Panacur 10% but in bigger quantities, but for some reason the licensing has changed and the bulk bottles are not for for sale for dogs and cats.

That's a bit of a joke for people with multiple large dogs, as 100ml doesn't go very far, not to mention the price difference.
- By welshie [gb] Date 18.06.11 08:42 UTC
so what strenth i.e would i give a 6 month puppy med breed
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.11 09:00 UTC
It is 10% except in tiny toys there is no point to using the 2.5% which only comes in cat and dog sizes.

Using the 10% strength/potency It's 1/2 ml per kg bodyweight for 3 days in pups under 6 months, and 1ml per kg single dose for older pups and adults.
- By furriefriends Date 18.06.11 09:19 UTC
still trying to sort out brookes wormers what does pancure cover and does it include lung and tapeworm ?
sorryi know that wasnt the op question
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.11 11:19 UTC Edited 18.06.11 11:32 UTC
Yes panacur does cover lungworm, if there is an existing confirmed infection the dosage is 1/2 the adult dose given over 7 days.

8 years ago that is what was used to treat a bad case of this in one of my puppies sold into the London area that was diagnosed with this.

Here is the wiki page for Fenbendazole the active ingredient in Panacur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenbendazole

Lungworms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungworm

Quote:
"Treatment

..........The drug fenbendazole is usually administer to kill the parasite. It is very safe and does not harm the animal."
- By furriefriends Date 18.06.11 13:20 UTC
do you think panacur would be an alternative to using two products. ie drontal and advantage I am trying to avoid as many chemicals as possible for her and if possible not use a spot on. Mods if you think this should be a separate thread can you please do the honours :)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.11 16:45 UTC
I would never use two products as your doubling up, it's either or.  I am sure you mean you alternate just stating for clarity.

That link from Wiki shows that using two products together can cause issues (Panacur with something else), but that's the case with many medicines.
- By furriefriends Date 18.06.11 18:12 UTC
You are quote right brainless I would prefer to use just one product for all things ie just panacure does that make sense will read up as well thank you
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.11 19:41 UTC
The only thing Panacur doesn't seem to cover is the type of tapeworm that fleas carry. for that you need something else. 

I give mine a multi-wormer instead once a year with the Tape Worm component, in the Summer, but mine have never had a flea infestation, or any sign of tapeworm.
- By MsTemeraire Date 18.06.11 20:33 UTC

> The only thing Panacur doesn't seem to cover is the type of tapeworm that fleas carry. for that you need something else.


I didn't know that - but Panacur certainly evicted the monster tapeworm I didn't know my dog had, last autumn!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.11 20:46 UTC
It does cover some species of tapes.
- By molezak [gb] Date 13.07.20 14:09 UTC
Hello, anyone know if it still the case that the Cattle/Sheep/Horse Panacur 10% is still the same product as the dog 10% solution? Thank you!
- By Ann R Smith Date 13.07.20 15:19 UTC
No they are not

"Small animal10%

Active substance % w/v
Fenbendazole: 10.000

Other substances
Sodium methyl hydroxybenzoate: 0.200
Sodium propyl hydroxybenzoate: 0.020

Benzyl alcohol: 0.4835

Horse 10%

Active substance(s): % w/v
Fenbendazole 10.000
Excipients
Sodium Methyl Parahydroxybenzoate 0.200
Sodium Propyl Parahydroxybenzoate 0.0216
Benzyl Alcohol 0.4835"
- By chaumsong Date 14.07.20 00:46 UTC

> Hello, anyone know if it still the case that the Cattle/Sheep/Horse Panacur 10% is still the same product as the dog 10% solution?


Yes, the main active ingredient is exactly the same :grin:
- By Ann R Smith Date 14.07.20 01:44 UTC Upvotes 1
They are not the same drug & the equine is not licensed for use for dogs, cats etc
- By onetwothreefour Date 14.07.20 08:17 UTC Upvotes 3
They are both fenbendazole, which is the same drug. They are both 10%, which is the same dosage of fenbendazole.

They differ only slightly in the mix of preservatives (non-active ingredients) used, which are all ok anyway. Many of us buy the bulk version of Panacur because the small animal version is vastly overpriced.
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