Hi mitzy had pups on friday morning it was the perfect birth she took care of everything such a good mum.

she was very protective for 2 days then she was ok, we have left her to it as she was doing a great job and she seemed to be very happy.

Now day 4 she is wanting to be with us more opening kitchen door and running in being the little girl she was before (cheeky haha)

This is are first time as you can tell. we just want some advice as to what other mums are like after a few days.

Also we have another dog buster who was her best friend and he has been kept well away but we let them together today and she was playing fine with him outside , no were near puppies.

I just need some advice as to were to go from here (e.g  should we let mum in the living room with puppies and her whelping pen now or not.
because she wants to be in here so should we move whelping pen in living room with us , its very quiet in here no children just the 2 of us ,

i have done so much research, my breeding mentor has only had 1 litter himself ( so not much advice there) not much advice from vet. All he says is nature will take its course OMG

She is torn between her new role as mother and her role as your pet, so you need to make things easy for her by sitting in the room with the pups with her, you should not really leave them unattended until they eyes open at least as it is so easy for a puppy to be accidentally suffocated by Mum.

the dogs can meet and play fine but do not let you other dog in the room where pups are for at least 2 weeks, and then depends on Mum

Mien go into the communal dog area (kitchen at two to three weeks depending on how Mum feels about sharing her family.

Mine used to spend first two weeks in the bedroom with em along with them, but as I don't have children at home anymore and the living room is quiet I now have the whelping in the living room, but the other dogs are not allowed into the room.

The whelping box needs to made private and cave like.

My girl had her pups in the whelping box in the front room and this is where she stays until the pups are weaned, we then build a big puppy run for them to toddle about in. Its warmer there and she feels safer as shes near us. I sleep in the same room as her from about a week before shes due until the pups are around 5/6 weeks old. We have 2 other dogs aswell and they are kept well away from mum and pups until she decides its time to introduce them.

Are you sleeping in the same room as her, she may be a bit anxious as she can possibly hear you and wants to be with you. Im not sure about moving the whelping box as I set mine up and leave it in the room Im going to be staying in with her.
More experianced breeders may be able to advise with that though. Hope mum and pups are all doing well though and good luck.

my bitch just bit my hand off for tryin to go by them so leave alone xxxxx

Joey82, that is not usual at all, 

A bitch needs to have complete trust in the breeder even if she is less tolerant of other people while her pups are vulnerable.

Sounds like the bitch is not relaxed or feels her pups are safe.

Is the whelping box in a cosy secluded spot.

How is the bitch being fed, most often they need to be fed in the box as they don;t want to leave their pups and we prefer to encourage maternal devotion.

Are you sure your bitch is not unwell?