Hi everyone,
My beautiful girl whelped 9 pups last weekend,sadly the last was stillborn :( 8 were all born at good weights,over the space of the last few days despite all my efforts (rehydration fluid & royal canin baby milk) plus extra heat lamp i have lost all but 3.They went down so quickly,i tried absolutely everything within my power to keep these little ones alive.Poor mum got so stressed with it all ( she has previously whelped and reared brilliant healthy babies) that her milk started to dissapear.I was lucky enough to find a foster mum that was willing to take on the last 5 babies that i had,sadly one died on the journey leaving 4,then another one went downhill (sucking reflex has been going on these babies) and we lost her yesterday.The remaining 3 are all feeding well and at the moment are looking good,they are now 7 days old.I have never,ever had this before,in fact i have never even over the years had a still born baby so you can imagine how i am coping with all this plus now looking after a fretting mummy wondering where her babies have gone :(
I have done so much research and calling other breeders about this and it's all pointing to the canine herpes virus,there is literally nothing you can do to save these babies.
I never in my life want to see this again :( im now looking into this vaccine and will always use it.
Now for the question ... I mated up my other bitch 9 days ago,now im absolutely petrified as you can imagine,it's just typical that it's bank holiday weekend so my vets are not open till tuesday.Is it too late to vaccinate her bearing in mind that my vet will have to order the vacc in on tuesday ?
Is there a good chance that she would have picked this virus up ? She obviously hasn't been in the same room as my whelping bitch but we do all share a house.
Sorry for such a long post,any advice would be so welcome,thankyou

http://www.southernenglish.co.uk/canine%20herpes.htm
"........There is no reliable antemortem test to detect animals which are infected. ......

......the virus grows best at temperatures just below that of normal dogs, so puppies less than 3 weeks old, which generally cannot yet regulate their own temperature, are most at risk of generalised disease. This is one reason why it is important to keep young puppies warm......

....Bitches that already have the virus can still be vaccinated. The vaccination protocol is to give one dose anytime between the onset of heat and 7-10 days after the presumed date of mating. A second dose is given 1-2 weeks before the expected date of whelping. This protocol is repeated at any subsequent mating....."

Dayzee - Read this post by kayc. It's very informative.
http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/board/topic_show.pl?pid=1205546;hl=herpes#pid1205546

So sorry to hear of your losses.

According to the Merial info, the CHV vaccine can be given 7-10 days after mating ... I would ring your vet first thing Tuesday morning and discuss it with them. If they say it is ok to use a day or two after that period, they should be able to order it in for Wednesday.

http://uk.merial.com/data_sheet/eurican_herpes_205.asp

Also have a read of this thread: http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/71220.html

Thankyou everyone :)
Im just so worried that i have missed that first window by a day or two :( and could i still have it done if i was a tad late ?
I do so appreciate your help,thankyou :)

Your vets may be closed for the holiday, but could you maybe ring their emergency number for advice on this?
They may be able to put your mind at rest, saving you worrying until Tuesday.

Good suggestion from Bestdogs ... you could try contacting Merial tomorrow. I know they're in the States but they may not have a holiday tomorrow?

Thankyou all so much for your replies.
I have been ringing around all day and have finally found someone who has some in her fridge.I am going over tommorow to get my girl vaxed and my vet is then stocking it for me so she can have the later one too.
I will from this point be using this vaccine on all of my pregnant bitches without fail.
Thankyou all one again :)

Oh well done, you did well to find some as I don't imagine there are many places who have it in stock. At least it will give you some peace of mind. I hope your remaining pups continue to do well :-)