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By ali-t
Date 19.03.11 21:56 UTC
My rott boy has been bringing up his meals for the last few days but is still peeing and pooing normally and isn't showing any difference in his behaviour.
He is fed kibble and has only had 2 meals in the last 3 days that he hasn't brought up (he is fed twice a day). I haven't taken him to the vet as he is still peeing and pooing so I am fairly sure there is no blockage and he isn't very good at the vets so I don't want him at the vet unless it is essential. The strange thing (IMO) is that he isn't being sick until between 5-10 hours after eating and is bringing mushed up kibble. It doesn't smell, apart from of kibble and he is no distress with it.
Any ideas what this could be? He hasn't eaten anything odd that I am aware of and as he is always walked on lead he doesn't get the chance to go off munching things without me noticing.
By Nova
Date 19.03.11 22:11 UTC

There may well be inflammation of the digestive tract and I think you should see a vet. Does he try to pick it up and re-eat?
By ali-t
Date 19.03.11 22:18 UTC
He did tonight with some of it in the garden but usually he doesn't and I have come down in the morning or home from work to piles of mush.
By Nova
Date 20.03.11 06:53 UTC

Then I think you should let the vet take a look at him there will be some reason why the food is not moving from the stomach into the intestines and it needs sorting. Is he able to hold water down or does he chuck that as well.
By ali-t
Date 20.03.11 13:11 UTC
Water is fine and there must be some food getting down as he is still pooing as normal. The poos aren't as big but I have given him carrots over the last couple of days and have tracked them through the vomit and the poo!
I will phone the vet to get him an appointment tomorrow. Fingers xed it is something simple.
By Nova
Date 20.03.11 14:41 UTC

My best guess would be an infection that has inflamed the digestive tract and although some food is being digested the system is then giving up and regurgitating the rest - would think if that is so some ABs and resting the system for a couple of days should sort it.
By ali-t
Date 20.03.11 15:13 UTC
He has just finished a course of anti-biotics for a nail bed infection. The vomiting started on the second last day of the antibiotic treatment. I wonder if they have irritated his stomach/digestive tract.
By Nova
Date 20.03.11 17:32 UTC

That could well be what has happened but it needs to be looked at, did the ABs upset his stomach. There is always a chance that this is an infection and the AB he had for his foot is not effective on whatever is upsetting his intestines.
By Ghost
Date 20.03.11 18:02 UTC
Try some Slipery Elm or acidophilus - we get both of these from Holland and Barrett for our Newfs.Our buy had GDV Bloat in 2009 and has had a dodgy stomach ever since,when ever he seems very gassy or sickly we gice him the odd tablet.Calms it a treat

My male GSD has just had a similar episode ( see previous post 'Vomitting during feeding') It transpires he had a Helicobactor infection. He has an auto-immune disease and has been on auto-immune suppresents (Cyclosporin 'Atopica') which caused this naturally present bacteria to over run and cause illness. It was confirmed by endoscopy and biopsy.

Any vomiting that goes on beyond 24 hrs needs investigating, after dealing with a liver shunt in my Mums dog some years back I am always wary.
Speaking to the speciallist vets at the Animal Hospital Liver shunts can show from shortly after birth and the oldest one was an 11yrs old with a very mild form.
I hope it is nothing serious.
By ali-t
Date 26.03.11 15:14 UTC
I thought I had updated this thread with feedback but the outcome of the vet visit was a bill of £36 and a prescription for zantac (that I could have bought at the pound shop!!). He is on them for the next few weeks but they seem to be working, no more puking. I have to wait and see if the vomiting starts when we stop the pills but fingers xed it will be ok.
Sorry to hear about your boy barkingmad, that sounds awful for him.
By Nova
Date 26.03.11 16:24 UTC

Never mind the Bill cheekychow - you now know there is nothing major wrong but without the vets check you would not have known and it could have been something very much worse.
By ali-t
Date 26.03.11 16:42 UTC
I know, I can't put a price on having my mind put at rest. If he starts being sick again after the zantac is stopped there may be something stuck to the vet said an op is still a possibility but heres hoping it was just a minor inflammation.
By Nova
Date 26.03.11 19:18 UTC

As he has responded so well I am sure it is nothing to worry about - there is a condition where the intestines slip inside themselves that seems to happen for no reason and that does need urgent attention which is one of the reasons why I said see a vet. However if the vet had suspected that I am sure you would not have been given medication and sent off to see what happened, so it seems good news for your lad.
By beano
Date 26.03.11 22:54 UTC
you could add some natural yogurt to his fod this may help settle his stomach a wee bitty.
Sorry to hear about your boy barkingmad, that sounds awful for him. Bless him, he was very under the weather. He had one month of Amoxycillin x 2 twice a day, Metronidazole x 2 twice a day and some other tabs for stomach acid x 1 per day. Not easy to get them down him! Almost 2 weeks has gone by since the tabs have finished and touch wood.....he seems ok. Helicobacter can be tricky to cure and often you would need to repeat the meds. Fingers crossed its gone now.
By ali-t
Date 11.05.11 22:08 UTC
We are still having problems with my boy vomiting and after multiple vet trips have ruled out that something is stuck as the vomiting stops with the zantac. Apparently his stomach should empty within around 3 hours but he puked up a baby boiled potato still in its skin 22 hours after eating it so there is a problem with digestion.
The pattern is sickness anything from 7-12 hours after eating and it is mushed up food. As of today we have moved from 2 meals a day to 3 and will look longer term at changing his food to see if it makes a difference. He was also on antibiotics as the vet said there is sometimes a stomach bug that can cause these symptoms but the vomiting started again after the anti-biotics and zantac finished.
Any ideas? We are due back at the vet in a few weeks but I feel we are clutching at straws and I don't want him on pills long term or operated on unless absolutely necessary.
By Nova
Date 12.05.11 06:18 UTC

If mine ate a baby boiled potato they would vomit it back as well. although food that can pass through the stomach will do so that that can not pass through will stay in the stomach for several days. Have had socks returned after 4 days and a Kinder Egg took over a week.
Try feeding only small pieces of food and it may pass through ok, if your boy has a small tight exit from the stomach (it is a band of muscle something along the lines of the anus but smaller and tighter, designed to keep food in the stomach until the food is of a suitable size to continue it's journey). If the food does not break down to a suitable size then it will be vomited and probably re-eaten.
By Nova
Date 12.05.11 06:24 UTC

Don't think you have said how old this boy is, am wondering if he has a canine version of Pyloric Stenosis a condition that stops the food making its way from the stomach into the intestines and results, in humans, in projectile vomiting.
By ali-t
Date 12.05.11 09:21 UTC
He has never had problems with food before and the only things he has brought back up has on occassion been bits of bone that have been swallowed when they were too big. He is 2 years old and this has been going on for a few months. I will have a look at Pyloric Stenosis online and see if it matches his symptoms. Thanks.
By Nova
Date 12.05.11 09:40 UTC
Edited 12.05.11 09:47 UTC

my pug has had a hernia for years,he is on tagamet syrup,we have to soak his kibble till soft,then share them out into 3 courses each one with up to 10 mins break in between and then on the last course he has his tagamet,if we dont he cn be sick,or he can regurgitate and inhale it etc etc,his was the result of BAOS which is more comon in flat faced breeds
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Dietry intolerances are a possibility
We have a veteran Boxer girl with this she had similar symptoms. (all other things ruled out i.e cancer in spleen/pancreas etc
had exploritory biopses, x-rays, ultrasound and a scope down her tummy etc to see what's going on)
Have her on Royal Canin Sensitivity control - blue whiting and tapioca.
After having her on steroids, zantac etc this seems to be doing the trick for the last almost two years.
Worked out what she can tolerate in the way of treats, fish 4 dogs fish skins and the homemade tuna cake.
If she gets hold of anything else she's sick..
cheapest place to buy this food (14kg sack) is Pet Planet.
By STARRYEYES
Date 12.05.11 18:25 UTC
Edited 12.05.11 18:36 UTC

did you say you have tried changing his food?
I have a bitch who was feed same as other dogs she began to vomit during the night until it was just bile . Vet told me to change her diet to the science plan prescription diet for digestive problems for a couple of weeks , then change her onto another food of my choice.
He said that sometimes dogs for no reason become allergic to the food which irritates the gut and makes them sick. I did as he said fed her a 7 and half kg bag then changed her over to wafcol salmon and potato..she has been fine ever since...
As I have said before my vet prefers to treat naturally before going down the meds route...
By ali-t
Date 12.05.11 19:22 UTC
He has been on the same food for around a year. He was weaned on beta and I changed him to orijen and then later Salters so he was on the same as my other dog. They both look great on it and are full of life but the vomiting is driving me (and him) crazy.
Nova pyloric stenosis would appear to fit the bill apart from the age it developed as it is usually in very young dogs or older dogs. The literature I read about hernias said that vomiting is likely to occur fairly soon after eating so I am less sure it is this. Thanks for the suggestions though, it is something to take back to the vet when we go.
As for changing his food, that may come next. We are doing a test of how he gets on with 3 meals a day just now but chappie or other such similar may be calling.
My old girl used to be fed tinned chappie, which she used to be fine with.
But for what ever reason she could no longer tolerate it.
So we feed the RC sensitivity control, which she can tolerate and her sickness stopped.
This was after being on steroids and having to be weaned off etc.
She just has to have a morsel of something that she can't tolerate to start the sickness up again.
So it might be worth considering trying the different sensitive diets to see if that will help.
Good Luck!
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