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Topic Dog Boards / General / when someone cant keep there pup what normaly happens?
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 27.02.11 19:35 UTC
I know good breeders will rehome there pups that for whatever reason the new owner cant keep them, do they take the pup back then rehome it, or does it stay with its owners who work with the breeder to finde a new home?

Just seen an add for a female Dogue De Bordeaux puppy who the owner has had for a week but is selling due to illness in family, i looked the the breeders website (the seller had the parents names in the add) and they still have 2 unsold male pups, and thats whats made me wonder what normaly happens if buyer cant keep the pup.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.02.11 19:45 UTC
After such a short time I would expect to have the pup back, and return the price paid.

With older dogs depends on how quickly the owners need to relinquish the dog.  I recently had a 4 year old dog back with 2 hours notice just a few days before his sister was expected to whelp, lousy timing but my responsibility.

Also once had a 9 year old bitch back in half an hour from the friend of the owner who had given the bitch to them, as her own food guarding rescue bitch had attacked and injured her.  She came to me still bleeding from puncture wounds!

In the past, when things have not been desperate time wise I have been able to marry up relinquishing owner with new owner, and the dog passed between them.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 27.02.11 19:49 UTC
good on you brainless. I supose it would be easyer on the dog to go straight form one home to the new one rather than traviling to breeders then to new homes.
- By Carrington Date 27.02.11 19:49 UTC
Speaking for myself I would always have a pup back I would never work via an owner to secure a new home. It's my pup, my reputation. I would need to make sure that the pup was ok, make sure it was up to date with it's socialising, toilet training, healthy, etc and being brought up properly no-one can guarantee that but me, so no matter what the circumstances if a pup after my careful vetting should need to be returned (scream) that pup would come back to me, so that I could assess the right home for it. :-)

I wonder if the breeder of the DDB knows, I would hope that they would be horrified that their pup is being advertised one week after being homed. Would you do the pup a favour and let the breeder know, just in case they don't, I would really appreciate and I know I am speaking for other breeders on here if someone like you were to let us know, would you please contact the breeder. :-)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.02.11 20:18 UTC

> if a pup after my careful vetting should need to be returned (scream) that pup would come back to me, so that I could assess the right home for it. :-)
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I would expect to be the one to find the new owner and pass them onto the relinquishing owner, as it may be much less traumatic for the dog to be moved just the once.

Of course a puppy is rather different.  With an adult dog the owner will actually be in a better position to tell the new owner all the details about the dog, I as the breeder only had it for the first weeks of it's life.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 27.02.11 21:41 UTC
I would really appreciate and I know I am speaking for other breeders on here if someone like you were to let us know, would you please contact the breeder

do you think i should? I dont know if they know or not, should i email them through there website or there ChampDogs site?
- By MsTemeraire Date 27.02.11 21:46 UTC
Yes do get in touch and send them a link to (or screen-shot of) the ad. it may all be known to the breeder (or they may nor care) but you have nothing to lose and the puppy has everything to gain.

I've done the same myself when I spotted an ad in a local ad-mag, someone rehoming a pedigree cat - I happened to recognise the phone number and knew the person hadn't had the cat very long, told the breeder (very respectable and reputable) and she was furious but the cat did end up going back to her, and not onto some unknown 3rd party.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 27.02.11 21:49 UTC Edited 27.02.11 21:52 UTC
ok ive sent them an email with a link to the add
- By Trialist Date 27.02.11 22:20 UTC
Pup comes back to me whether 1 week later or 10 years later. I would be upset (to say the very least) if one of my pups was up for sale after such a short time. I am afraid I would want pup back with me so that I could be sure I'd get the right home for it.
- By JeanSW Date 27.02.11 22:21 UTC

> do you think i should?


I would want you to let me know. 
- By toffeecrisp [gb] Date 27.02.11 23:04 UTC
I would want to know and I would always take a pup back no matter what age.
Im the one who chose the home for the pup in the 1st place, Id expect it to come to me.
- By rabid [gb] Date 27.02.11 23:08 UTC
The breeder of our first dog repeated the mating 2 years later.

About 4 weeks after the pups went to their new homes, she sent an email out asking if anyone was looking for another pup, as new owners had lied and said they didn't work full time, when they did - and pup was being left for ages - and new owners had fortunately realised this was cruel and fessed up to the breeder and asked her to rehome it. 

The breeder had since gone back to work full time and it wasn't ideal for her to take pup back herself either. 

We didn't want another dog at the time, but friends of mine wanted one of this breed - only they were having work done on their house and couldn't have the pup for about 3 weeks.  I told the breeder about this and volunteered our services - puppy came to live with us for 3 weeks, before going to my friends.  I actually think it was excellent socialisation for the pup to have so many homes - I took her to puppy class and did lots of training, plus she played with our older dog as well.  She went to her new home crate-trained and toilet-trained and well socialised.  Far better than what she would have had at either the breeder's or the new owner's.

Which is all to say that I think it depends on who is best able to care for the pup, in the interim.  If the new owners (or another party) can provide a better level of care for a few weeks than the breeder, than perhaps that is best. 

Usually new owners are unlikely to want to provide good care for a pup they are also trying to detach themselves from because they are not going to keep it.  However, sometimes life gets in the way of the breeder taking the pup back too.  Sometimes a short-term foster home is a good idea.
- By judgedredd [gb] Date 28.02.11 07:11 UTC
i would expect the pup to come back to me infact at any age i would hope they came back to me my last litter of gsd and i am talking a few years ago, i had one of them back at the age of 11 as the owner died suddenly i took her back and after a week the persons son came and said we have dealt with everything would it be possible if we took her for her remaning years and as i had known them for a long time she went and lived out her twighlight years with this family.
- By itsadogslife [gb] Date 28.02.11 10:10 UTC
Great, I hope they manage to get the pup back.

We had a pup returned from our very first litter. He was 9 months old & turned our household upside down initially! He was eventually rehomed through our breed rescue after 2 weeks. I don't regret having him back, as he needed "straightening out" lol! It was like he had always been here, was essentially a great young dog, and went off to his new home having learned how to behave and how great life can be! I still think about him, but don't regret finding him another home. With the contacts I've got now, and the constant enquiries for puppies we get, I feel sure if it happened again, I'd be able to rehome without having to go the route of rescue, as you don't get any contact - that's my main regret!

Unless a breeder has kennels (even one kennel!) I think that it can't always be possible to house an "outside" dog with their pack. There's no guarantee that the incoming dog will adjust to life with a pack. We're planning to move in the next couple of years and will install a kennel, just in case this scenario should happen again.

How have other breeders managed when the incoming dog doesn't get on with the "pack"? Do you rehome through word of mouth, or is your breed rescue your first port of call?

Interesting subject.
- By FreedomOfSpirit [gb] Date 28.02.11 14:03 UTC
I've had this happen three times.....

Most recent was a young puppy who had suffered a vaccine reaction after his second vaccine....vet had changed him from his Raw diet to a prescription diet....and proceeded to give him his third vaccine at 16 weeks even though he was still unwell. He came back to me extremely poorley and vet had suggested PTS. I had by this time made it a condition of sale that I wanted to be kept informed of suspected vaccine reactions as its a subject very close to my heart......and I'm closely monitoring for these kind of reactions. My set up allowed me to take him back...work with my homeopathic vet at my own cost to make him well again.....and I was able to return him to his delighted owner after two weeks round the clock attention. Notably his Mum still remembered him and spent the first few days constantly next to him...and then once he was recovered....playing with him...   

Second was when owners situation changed as a result of marital problems...pup was 9 months old.... I worked with her and he was rehomed to an aquaintance of hers and I passed on all my details so we could keep in touch

Prior to ever having KC dogs I took back a 9 year old after her owner was hospitalised and she stayed with me until she died peacefully at 15.

In all cases though I would want to know....and would try to do what I thought was best for each particular dog....having him/her back with me for good if that was neccessary
- By LouiseDDB [gb] Date 01.03.11 18:44 UTC
I think i know which advert you mean and i would think they would like to have her back but they are in ireland are the breeders. Highly sought after puppy as well. If i was owner id return back to breeder whether he gets full purchase price or not, hes selling pup for much lower than he would have paid.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 01.03.11 19:15 UTC
yes i think you have seen the same add, i mailed the breeder with a link to the add, not hurd anything back so dont know if they have read it yet.
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