> My thoughts regarding this is that they can charge more than a standard crossbreed/mongrel fee.

Or perhaps they are discovering that there are some health issues unique to that cross?
Edit: Not only health, but behavioural perhaps as some insurance companies cover for that as well.

Yes, sleepwhatsleep, I too discovered this when looking for an insurance quote. In addition to your very valid point, it could be taken as yet another reinforcement in the GP 's mind, that it is recognised breed rather than a cross!!

well if ine re anything to go by the pedigee cats / dogs are deffinitely dearer and their track record at the vet is no different.

VERY RARE PYREDOODLE / PYREPOO PUPPIES.mum is a white with lemon pyrenean mountain dog kc reg excellent pedigree by champion 'shanlimore midnight cowboy' both her parents are hip and eye tested. Dad is a stunning white standard poodle kc reg,

had to post this, i cant believe it, what happened to pure bred dogs?

We had 4 "Jugs" (Pug x Jack Russell) at the Pug Party on Sunday, 2 pairs of litter mates.  The first 2 were leggy, light boned, lot  less body than a pug, small heads, slightly longer nose than pug, very hyper, short, smooth coat (one reddish fawn, one darkish drown), slightly curled tails.  the 2nd pair were very short legged, broad chest, heavy boned, largeish head, muzzle slightly longer than pug, plumed tail curling over back,deep gold colour, could not see too much about coat texture as had been clipped off,  but judging from tail and the fact they were clipped I guess semi long haired.  No resemblance between the 2 pairs of siblings.  My guess of the 2nd pair would be they were Shih Tzu rather than pug crosses but who knows?  With the first pair the parents were either VERY long legged JRs or something else is in the mix as well.  Both were with sensible, intelligent families who had believed every word the respective  breeders told them.

VERY RARE PYREDOODLE / PYREPOO PUPPIES.mum is a white with lemon pyrenean mountain dog kc reg excellent pedigree by champion 'shanlimore midnight cowboy' both her parents are hip and eye tested. Dad is a stunning white standard poodle kc reg,
So mum hasn't had her tests, or why else mention grandparents and what about dads tests?  Both need HD and PRA tests as well as other illnesses that seem common to both so why no tests for the parents.  Oh, sorry, I forgot; as a cross-breed they are naturally immune to all pedigree afflictions!

I spoke to a friend who is secretary of one of the Pyrenean Clubs in the UK and her main concern was mixing the huge guarding instinct these dogs have with the clown behaviour of the Poodle. She also thought the coats of these puppies could be a nightmare to deal with.

I spoke to a friend who is secretary of one of the Pyrenean Clubs in the UK and her main concern was mixing the huge guarding instinct these dogs have with the clown behaviour of the Poodle. She also thought the coats of these puppies could be a nightmare to deal with.
That was my first thought too... or worse, the trait of many poodles of being highly strung with the guarding instinct of the pyrenees... an absolute nightmare and certainly not a family dog!

vera

Both were with sensible, intelligent families who had believed every word the respective  breeders told them.

This is what is one of the awful things about all this 'crossing', that sensible, intelligent people are being duped by all the hype about supposedly poor health in all pedigree dogs and therefore believing the absolute twaddle these people peddle!!

Both were with sensible, intelligent families who had believed every word the respective  breeders told them.  This is what is one of the awful things about all this 'crossing', that sensible, intelligent people are being duped by all the hype about supposedly poor health in all pedigree dogs and therefore believing the absolute twaddle these people peddle!!


And we know who's doorstep to dump the responsibility for that.

Well if it was on the TV, then it must be right! :( :( :(

Tina,
> champion 'shanlimore midnight cowboy'

I've just been looking at the site of this breeder of the Pyr's and this boy was rested only this year, so very sad too :-(

I adore labradoodles.

Although I dont agree the designer aspect of there dogs and that they are often advertised as being free of common problems with the breeds they are mixed with.... they can potentially inherit both sets of problems! And of course the price.

We had a labradoodle, and paid about £500 for him (he died very young of a congenital problem)

BUT.... they serve a purpose and are supposed to be hypoallergenic and non moulting.

> BUT.... they serve a purpose and are supposed to be hypoallergenic and non moulting.

The problem is, though..... that despite breeders' claims, many aren't.
I'm sorry to hear of your lad's early demise...  what kind of congenital problem? Was it something that could have been tested for?

Very true.

My little man couldnt absorb his food. Nothing testing could have prevented unfortunately and something completely untreatable. Luckily my colleagues were amazing (im a veterinary nurse) and tried everything .He even had a stomach tube for 2 weeks but everything came straight through.

Poor little lad.

The breeder was totally hopeless when informed.... we just wanted to know if there was an history in the family and inform her because he was from a litter of 8.

Our insurance did pay out, but none the less it never made his loss any easier. Would rather have been thousands out of pocket and still had him.

x

BUT.... they serve a purpose and are supposed to be hypoallergenic and non moulting.

many arent! what about the tons of them bred that dont have that presumed 'non allergenic non moulting' coat? many look just like labs especially the 2nd and 3rd generations
making a non allergenic dog was a good idea but in reality, it didnt work

http://www.labradoodletrust.com/allergy_info.html

This gives very good information about the myth.

Sorry to hear about the loss of your dog. When you say the breeder was hopeless when informed what do you mean ?

Talking of crossbreeds... I've just seen Doodleman puppies for sale... Doberman X Standard Poodle... wonder how they are going to look like when they grow up. Like Dobermans with curly hair???

i doubt it. i remember on epupz a pillock deliberately bred a poodle and a dalmation saying pups should be curly coated and spotted!  pups in reality were all black and smooth coated- pathetic

Wish all this crazy breeding would end:( makes me mad at some of the prices these people pay for a "cross breed" and how they think they have some new and rare breed?? met a woman with a "jug" (pugxjack russel) the other day who said the dog was a new and very rare breed to the UK:( groan:(

Sorry its taken me a while to check back.

The breeder was very unsympathetic considering we had not long got the puppy from her, wouldn't listen to the problems or talk to my vet.

There was no element of blame but we thought it was important she informed other owners of the problem.

Coincidently, she changed her telephone number within a few days when we tried to inform her he had passed away.