Today in PAH I saw on their advert board the word Shibolli. On looking closer, it was advertising a litter of Shiba Inu cross Border Collie!!
They proudly said they had a youngster from their 2009 litter, so not a one off. Also claiming non- shedding! Where on earth will all this end?

Non-shedding? Like.....how??

It wont end...because thats how they make money!

You despair don't you?   

Two such high maintenance breeds, and advertised in exactly the right place to target a pet owner.

No wonder so many of these working types already in rescue.  Such a great shame.

You despair don't you?  Yes! I truly wish the abuse of all the wonderful breeds could be classed as a criminal offence!

Well I don't expect it will stop when the people who are doing the right thing (people like us) keep getting slated leaving the idiots to do what they please and unknown damage in the process.

Why on earth, if they have to do these strange crosses, just advertise them as what they are & not make up these stupid and fancy names & charging the earth for a crossbred!!!

> Non-shedding? Like.....how?? <img src="/images/eek.gif" alt="eek">

Isn't it FANTASTIC how the simple act of crossing 2 breeds together means the resulting pups can be guaranteed to be non casting - even if both of the breed "in the Mix" cast like mad ;)  Aren't genetics wonderful!!!

> Non-shedding?

Couldn't they be 'done' under trade  description or advertising standards?

STUNNING FOXIPOO PUPPIES. (MUM K C REG'D FOX TERRIER DAD K C REG'D TOY POODLE). BOTH PARENTS CAN BE SEEN AND ARE K C REGISTERED. VERY UNUSUAL DESIGNER CROSS!!! FULLY VET CHECKED AND BOTH VACCINATIONS. PETPLAN INSURANCE AND ROYAL CANIN PUPPY PACK. ***READY NOW***PRICE REDUCED DUE TO TIMEWASTERS

It just gets better doesnt it, on the poodle section only 2 out of about 150 ads were pure poodles :(

Had really nice conversation the other day with someone who was thinking about a labradoodle or similar because a family member had allergies and they were non-moulting.!! ( the dog I mean )
Fortunately she really sounded like she was wanting to learn and was astounded when I told her that was a gamble and the other problems with cross breeds. By the time we left she was seriously considering visiting a rescue or another breed and pure bred 

Loving homes ONLY for home-reared pups. Unique opportunity to own a rare and desirable Pugellois. Dam is a black Pug, Sire is a black Griffon Bruxellois.

i couldnt believe this ad! and £1500 per pup! what money grabbing b*****ds the breeders must be!

Re shobollies, are you in the southwest by chance? There is a litter round here atm. £350 each, blue merle mum.

Adam

Loving homes ONLY

This and similar ALWAYS gets me    They do it to appear caring (and some may even mean it), but really... Who would ring them up and say "I want one of your pups to mistreat and abuse" ??      They won't check the new owners as long as the money is right 

Adam, you're in my neck of the woods too. I saw them advertised in the paper today. What on earth gives them the right to say that the pups will inherit the best from both parents??

Yes, I am in the south west- sounds like the same litter. Please God it is and that no more have been produced!

saw on gumtree site some cavestie pups for sale, at the usual silly price!

Its ridiculas what people will do for money stupid people and dont think of the poor dogs I would far rather pay for a pure bred with history. I had a heated convo with somebody a while back regarding her labradoodle she was very pleased at telling me her dogs parents where champs and she would be showing him (lmao) I told her she could not show at a proper kc show as he was in fact a mongrel, needless to say she wasnt inpressed and insisted that he was not a mongrel......

I was thinking about starting my own "brand" Was thinking Id get some Bull-Shitz going........

Ps Iam only joking regarding the Bull shitz lol

Kennel Club Accredited Breeder, We have a wonderful litter of yoodles for sale,

this made me want to scream! how can an accredited breeder breed crosses? do the kc know about this?

are you sure its not just a spelling mistake

It definitely wants checking if it really is yoodles and if they really are a KC Accredited Breeder or even if they are just saying they are. Either way the KC would want to know.

not a spelling mistake its a poodle cross yorkie usually called a yorkiepoo i suppose they just want new stupid names to sell more

Rather embarrassed to admit that I laughed out loud at 'Yoodles'.  Can't believe the cheek, and even worse, the gullibility of puppy buyers.  I may have been ignorant when buying Heidi - but still.. 
A close friend of mind talked about a neighbour's designer dog in derogatory terms - it was a Dalmatian.  What would she say about a Yoodle?  [She has a working type black Labrador btw]

Bull-Shitz try advertising it and I bet they would queue up to buy. He He.

I did see a stunning "Cockapoo" with its designer owner - Im afraid I said what a lovely mongrel! but she didnt seem impressed!!! moi did I say something wrong???

It was a beautiful manicured friendly dog but still a MONGREL.

That post made me chuckle Scooby_doo!

On a serious note, no-one can stop anyone breeding any combination of dogs regardless of how much we all want it to stop.  Whilst people are prepared to pay over a £1000 for a cross then there will be a market for them! Sad but true.

I have also had a 'discussion' with a lady who told me I was 'stupid' when I called her shitpoo (her description) a 'cross'. I had to laugh..........

we had a lady come to training with a cocker X poodle, i had to ask her what breedit was and she rather proudly said "she's a cockerpoo" then someone esle asked her and before she could answer i rather loudly stated it was a cocker X poodle !!

I have nothing against X breeds as long as people acknowledge they are a X breed.

I couldnt care less whether a dog is a pure bred cross breed or a tin of beans, you should only offer a dog a home if you care about them and if you can make your life fit around them! But ads like that really annoy me. Simply because the owners dont care all thier intrested in is the money that they are going to get. And they dont care what lies they tell to get it.

AD: salt and pepper mini schnauzer puppy, very light coloured - may turn white!!! I have never seen a colour changing dog before! Sad thing is someone will believe this advert and pay top money for a KC registered mini schnauzer puppy. It is not a cross breed but bad genetic choice. If you are going to breed you should be improving the quality not mating with a different coloured dog just to get some pups - It's disgusting.

Have put a fake ad up for Bull- shitz just to see what happens lol......

It's awful, saw an advert for 'Bicheps' (GSD x Bichon Frise) the other day, the worst bit was not the stupid claim that they were 'rare' but the fact that the GSD was the sire. Poor mum.

I need a stiff drink! Goodness. HOW! No, it's ok, I can answer that. :-(

I know of a Kennel Club Accredited Breeder that breeds & sells crosses. I dont think that the K.C. would be interested. 

Anyone who has hard evidence of a KC Accredited Breeder breaking the rules please contact the KC and they should definitely take action. It is no good having a scheme that is promoted as the right and responsible way to breed if it is not enforced.

i saw another ad that annoyed me today-- she says shes a vet nurse and registered breeder, dosnt say kc accredited though and she has 2 litters on 2 seperate ads, one german shepherds and one min poodles. she says the parents are all family pets. i wonder how many people will fall for it? she sounds like a byb to me. she claims they are bred for wonderful looks and outstanding temperaments and obv for money but she doesnt say that!

forgot to say i just saw an even more upsetting one. someone selling a dachsie that is a proved stud that they have just eye tested and realised he is a carrier. and they arent even castrating him just getting rid. i suppose its good that they wont breed him again but shouldnt they eye test before using him as a stud?

They should also neuter him to prevent anyone else breeding from him.

they also said his puppies could be 50% affected with blindness but i dont suppose they told the buyers of his previous litters

Suppose it depends on what the problem is - the eyes are tested every year because some of the problems do not appear till the dog reaches a good number of years old. So although I would condemn anyone using a dog that is not tested they may well have been testing this dog and the problem has only just been diagnosed.

I seen today an add for a BOXADOR ( boxer and a Labrador) and a BOWEIMAR ( boxer and a Weimaraner ) , I couldnt believe it :( i also seen one for a BOXSTAFF. It all makes me feel sick the poor dogs !!

A litter of boerboels x dobemans offered for sale too.

I am shaking my head in despair as how is anybody going to stop this :-( We are taking about how we can educate people I'n another thread as being a consumer lead society now it is going to be almost impossible to stop this. Shame that the message from a certain program can be blamed for fueling this sort of breeding :-(

I would think that a lot of people buying these crossbreeds are having, or will have, a lot of problems.

I am fast coming to the conclusion that when you try this type of breeding it's not as simple as getting a dog with the qualities of both parents. In many cases the buyers have never owned or have no experience of either parent breed, andi n any case you may get characteristics of one breed being altered by the other to create different behaviour or type... I'm reading about how many Labradoodles are more bouncy and hyper than either parent, and some it seems grow bigger than both breeds! There is one living locally to me who is going to make at least 25" - he's six months old and already outgrown a 42" crate.

Let's use the Labradoodle as an example, even if you researched both breeds fully & joined both a Lab breed club and a Poodle one that wouldn't be much help on the behavioural front so where would people go for help and advice?

I'm saying this as my own first-cross has not been a walk in the park - to exuse the pun - and I firmly believe his difficulties are the result of certain behaviours of one breed being fuelled and intensified by the other, meaning he is not quite like either parent breed in some respects. The more I learn about his parent breeds, the more I see in him one rather than the other, but at the same time, he's got aspects which are not like either!

boerboels x dobemans

and you can just guess who is going to buy them...

Internet search says that Boerboels are bred for their aggression. Put this with a Dobe. WOW!  Queue up for the latest weapon. (And no doubt, that will upset someone.)

I am shaking my head in despair as how is anybody going to stop this

This was how I felt when I opened this thread.  It is really frightening to see the mix of so many  crosses, which are potentially lethal!

In years gone by, there were many lovable mongrels and crossbreeds around, but there certainly were not so many pure breds that people could mess about with. Having a relatively affluent society has produced so many choices for people, in all aspects of buying, including dogs. Unfortunately, this has led to the rise in the pure bred dog population, which in turn has given the opportunity to profit from experimenting with the so called 'designer dogs'.  When I was young, few people could afford to spend a fortune on a dog. Maybe it is a shame it didn't stay that way!

The whole thing is a tragedy.

Education, education , education is a wonderful thing, but how do you educate people who don't want to learn?  

Being ironic..... it might give a lot more dog behaviourists a liveable income....
but let's hope they are not the sort who think electrocuting a dog is the cure for everything!

also loads of breeders are doing labradoodles f2 or fb, they are crossing back to poodles later on, how can they know what they will be like? and they still claim non moulting obv

What I find quite ironic is that there appears to be a group of people out there who ,it appears, totally agree with a lot of what has already been said on this forum!!
Have a look at the website for the Labradoodle Trust.

> This was how I felt when I opened this thread. It is really frightening to see the mix of so many crosses, which are potentially lethal!
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I've recently seen a litter of Staffy X Chow Chow.  A high drive dog crossed with one who rarely wears their 'listening ears'. 

I can't imagine they could combine into something particularly attractive or that they will be bought by people who have researched either breed.

Don't thing this is going to stop any time soon, too many things driving it on. First that program, and then a vet on TV confirming that crosses are more healthy and during the last 12 months it would seem a lot of other vets have joined in with this illogical un-truth and then you have the most potent force of all money.