well after the latest attacks on children by family pets i received a video on facebook via a friend who thought this clip was great, and well ok so the baby laughing his hearty laugh is sweet and funny , and maybe i am just over cautious,  but am i the only one who see's anything wrong with this clip and the potential dangers here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMuZdN84PJg

OMG!!!!  That made my blood run cold. I find it absolutely shocking that anybody can't see the dangers in that. I have a 6 mth old daughter and that video has actually really upset me.

yeap scared me a bit to,  but when i said it to my friend who posted it to me she thought i was being a killjoy :-( ,
i only hope that dog never finds a teething toy in that baby's mouth as exciting and decides to have a go for it,

i think you can hear the dogs jaw snapping shut a few times also,, and he gets pretty close to baby's head at one point , it don't bare thinking about what could have happened,

Apart from the other issues, the dog is being teased, which is not good to see, either. So it's much more likely to get frustrated and nippy.
You are right - overall, it's not particularly clever.
But you can see how someone who is not very animal savvy may think it's OK.

OMG !!  I don't think your a kiljoy at all, yes the baby laughing is cute but the reasons it is doing so is so wrong.

Yes it scared me too so I didn't repost it on my facebook page.  I kept on seeing the dog getting closer and closer and catching the baby by mistake.  Couldn't seey why people thought it was funny.

I wonder if the dog had actually grabbed the toy and the baby slipped would they of found it quite so funny. Teaching children to tantalise dogs with objects not very responsible at all.

SHOCKING, irresponsible parents should take a look at themselves.

Yes, I can see why non-doggy people would think it cute, but just another accident waiting to happen. I also didn't like the dachshunds jumping and putting paws up on the bath like that, surely not a good idea for long backed dogs like that?

There are loads of videos like this on YouTube.

Take a look at these! Absolute madness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChLGSEjGXg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1OFMrzCXI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS60OgcgeHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyBO4ohQqzU

I also had this posted to me. It didn't worry me in the least!
I took it as a family fun event well supervised and something captured for posterity.
Surely people have some fun and are not constantly fretting.
I agree with the comments that there are potential consequences but surely the same can be said for various other things in life.

Karen :) :)

Now the ones Zarah has posted are another thing altogether......:( :(
KAren

If it goes wrong it will the dog that suffers which is so unfair.

What idiots, poor dog not being allowed to eat her dinner in peace!

I have to admit though, I found this one further down and it's really cute!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UchTWy2rmZ8&feature=related

OMG, it is no wonder that there are so many tragedies involving children and dogs when muppets like that own dogs. 

The rottie guarding the baby on the sofa chilled me.  If this is something they do often then they would have been pretty sure of the dogs response but FFS the first time the dog was on the sofa with the baby they would have had no idea what the dog would do.  Idiots.  the child biting the dobes nose also had me wondering about how the parents actually made it to adulthood with so little commonsense.

It does make me wonder though.  I don't have children so my dogs are used to a quiet life and don't have screaming, noisy, arm waving distractions round the house.  There are also not many strangers in my house and my rott is a typical adult entire male with all that that brings!  I don't often wonder if he would be less stressy and reactive if home was full of chaos or if he would crumble under the pressure and make some bad decisions as he couldn't cope with the environment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbwMs7cjK0Y  To inject a bit of reality, this clip shows the bite power of a pit bull, GSD and rott.  Although this is a set up clip it does show the potential harm that could be caused by the dogs biting.  do you think any of the people in the other clips would change their behaviour if they saw this?  Probably not as 'my dog would never do that...'

I think what these videos show is that you can legislate against dangerous dogs, but you can't legislate against dangerously STUPID owners

Yes, the dog may be very good with the baby, but that doesn't mean that his patience and good temperament should be pushed to the limit.    What about when the dog is feeling hot or something else causes it to be more stressed than usual or he's just pushed too far?  that's when tragedy happens and then it's always the dog's fault!

> but am i the only one who see's anything wrong with this clip and the potential dangers here?

I think the video is a perfect example of people not realising the implications of ignoring the fact even our lovely, cute pet dogs are DOGS. They can only think like a dog and only learn like a dog.

It is cute that the baby is giggling, and looks cute that the dog wants to play, but that is ignoring all the underying issues.

Our dogs are constantly learning, so one needs to think what the dog is learning in any given situation. In the clip, the dog is leanring that it is OK to jump up at and snap at toys in a babys hands when the baby is wafting it's hands about. Noboby in thier right mind would deem it appropriate or safe to actively teach a dog to jump up at a baby or snap at things the baby is holding or jump & snap when a baby wafts its hands, yet sadly some fail to see that this is what they are actually doing :(

I would never allow my dog to play at that level of excitment & reactivity around my children - it is asking for trouble and is definatley not the way I want my dog to learn to behave around children!

ETA and the above danger doesn't even take into account aggression/reactivity through frustraiton of being teased :(

Well Ive had a real eye-opener with this video today. I posted on a baby forum that I'm a member of and I expected everybody to be appauled by it as there have been many threads about dogs and babies on there. However, surprisingly the majority of people couldn't see the problem. They were saying that 1) the dog is only playing,  2) the baby was having fun, 3) it was supervised.  Maybe they just couldn't see the hyper-reactiveness of the dog or the implications of the dogs assuming it is ok to snap at toys that the baby is waving around.  It really surprised me. I still find it quite upsetting to watch as one mis-judge snap and it's poorly fingers at best for the baby.  And as for the other video of the Rottie guarding the baby.....WTF.....not in a million years would I allow any dog to react like to guarding anything from me, let alone a baby!!!

The man who owns the Rottie is an absolute nutjob!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOoKFMVB6EE

"This might seem like a viscous dog but its not!
She is trained to do this, this is her playing."

This one is cute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYl8SYNuaKQ

But newfs are so gentle

Peanuts

OMG can just see the newspaper headlines when things go wrong !!!

The Rottie video is appalling. Surely Social Services should at the very least give the idiotic parents a warning? You could see even from the look in the dogs eye she meant business and it looked to me that when the adult put their hand over her head they were hesitant.

If/when there is an accident or fatality involving any of the dogs video'd I hope this will be used as evidence that it is totally the fault of the moronic owners, who IMO should never be allowed to keep a dog let alone have kids.

got to say,i love the newfie one,but the rotti one frightened the life out of me,a beautiful dog,but that growl was scary,god knows what they soulnd like when they actually mean it,to me you should not tease the dog like this,it aint funny,and one day,well i personally wouldnt put my face that close to my dog who was growling like that

[url=]The Rottie video is appalling.[/url]

Completely agree, anyone notice the dog licking her her lips,while the idiot was provoking her, she /he was not a happy doggy at all,

What an utter plank the Rottie man is, he's the type of owner who really shouldn't have any type of dog except a toy one on wheels, which might just about be on a par with his mental capabilities.
I do think that owners should have some sort of evaluation before being allowed to own a dog, and have some understanding of behaviour and training,probably not practical in the real world, but whats the alternative ?.

I'm so shocked at most of these videos, very scary stuff. And that baby girl in the dobie videos isn't being brought up to respect animals at all, poor Sassy, I can't imagine it'll be long before she ends up with a crayon or some such shoved up her nose.

> If/when there is an accident or fatality involving any of the dogs video'd I hope this will be used as evidence that it is totally the fault of the moronic owners, who IMO should never be allowed to keep a dog let alone have kids.

If it is anything like the mastiff attack on the woman the you tube footage of the dog was removed pretty quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SLWXrqls98&feature=related
i hope the link works,see i would never let my kids do this no matter what the breed and how big it is   accident waiting to happen,ps watched it with volume off so have no idea what they are saying
jo

Another numpty idiot, even if the dog doesn't decide to have a go, just by getting up and walking off like that the child could easily have fallen against the TV and injured herself. :-(

horendous, poor poor dog, parents should be shot, and have kids put in care as well

> watched it with volume off so have no idea what they are saying

The kid was saying something like "yeee-ha" :(

That video is disgusting. I have an English Mastiff and yes, they are a very tollerant breed, even so it was blatently obvious the dog was not happy :(

At first the dog turned his head to the side in the direction of the girl (the dog trying to communicate it is uncomfortable) that was IGNORED.
It then looks toward the adult behind the camers for assistance - that was IGNORED
It then put it's head back to look at the girl (again expressing it was uncomfortable) that was IGNORED
The dog then sits up in the hope to get itself out of the situation (along with lip-licking, another IGNORED sign of it's unease)- that was IGNORED
The kid still will not let go, the dog yawns & looks toward the girl on it's back again - IGNORED
The dog looks toward the owner for assistence again & back at the girl - IGNORED
In the end the dog had no choice but to move away - if it was a smaller dog it would not have been able to do so........

There were MANY attempts by the dog to communicate that it was not happy with a girl boucning on it's back & tugging it's collar, evey singal one ignored. The people have the chhek to say, when thier family dog attacks a child "it was unprovoked"

Sorry for all the waffling, but as I have that breed, I am absolutely disgusted that it's patience is tested to the limits and taken advantage of 

i agree completly and sadly,there were lots of videos of kids riding their dogs around the garden etc,a dog is not a horse,i dont agree with that at all
jo

I agree with you Mastifflover why parents think this is cute I have no idea but sure as hell if the dog turned it wouldn't be their fault.