Does anybody know of this breeder can you pm me with any information you have of them please.

What I am after is specifically what is the kc name the have registered under for any of the non cross bred dogs they breed which I can see so far labs and mini dashes but sure there maybe others :-)

Thanks

Lucy

Oh - and after them describing pedigree dogs as "pedigree monsters" too!!!

Their advert seems very similar to the Dulux paint mixer in DIY stores - you tell us the cross and we will produce the dog :( :( :(

Daisy

It is really important I get this info so please if anybody can let me have anything on this I would be extremely grateful :-)

This might seem really obvious, but have you googled them... I did when I saw this post and it has this and another affix on the website.
Sorry if you've already done this.

Rach yes I have ;-) What I need is some real first hand experience or evidence :-)

I knew you would have done! ;-)
Not having a good day lol

i really cant believe thier website i have never seen anything quite so shocking/saddening, cant get my head around why anyone would get a dog from a place like that.

If that site is correct that is a lot of litters they have at any one time.

However wonderful the website makes it sound its still a puppy farm isn't it? I can see how the GP would be taken in by it though,its a very slick website and several of my customers have bought puppies from there.But at the end of the day the dogs live their whole life in kennels :-( They're also very critical of show breeders aren't they?

It reminds me of them glossy brochures of timeshares and apartments abroad and when you get there its just a dustbowl, but look how many people get conned out of their money that way to, some people just don't see that if it looks to good to be true it ususally is.

disgusting

It's the worn out bitches for sale that upset me - poor girls

If you know what the J in Mrs J Platt stands for you may be able to cross reference other sites she is featured on via pipl.com  Her licence just says J Platt.

:( glad i didn't delve in that far, bad enough the parade of puppies, puppy labs just know how to work the doe eyed look even if they are not sad and then my imagination runs riot.

I just looked, that poor bitch with her belly hanging towards the floor, how many litters would she have had to look like that? or can it get like that after 1 or 2?

10 whelping kennels?? Puppy farm through and through..

I'd be interested to see their health test results, sadly from my searches nothing comes up with their dogs on KC health check.. Wonder if they'd be prepared to send details of the pedigrees?

Lucy,

They have their own FB site too :-(

OK, it's obviously a puppy farming establishment, sorry anyone who may disagree, but it is.

I've no experience, nor wish to have, but maybe if you hint as to why it's so imporatant to know about the place you may get some feedback? Have you checked out with the Kennel Club for the information you might be looking for? I know they're not all pedigress, but there may be records on the working register too.

Hope you find what it is you're looking for.

If you dig around in their website, one of their girls with a current litter is called Linjor Hot Chilli, Ive found her on the KC health test website and she has got the results that are stated.

The Linjor affix does have its own website, you could always drop them a line with any specific questions, after all Wentwood Labs have one of their girls?

Found this from March 2009

http://www.thefield.co.uk/features/314507/Crossbreed_dogs.html

"A debate with valid arguments on both sides is turning into a battleground. Jacky Platts, of Wentwood Labradoodles, whose partner Richard Hambleton is in charge of the labradoodle breeding programme, says: "I am a Kennel Club accredited breeder known for my pure-bred working labradors and I have had such criticism for breeding labradoodles. People send me abusive emails. But I am breeding the best and healthiest dogs I can. We breed from working labrador bitches and the dog has to be a top-class poodle, so we get a confident, calm dog, not gun-shy, that can be trained to work. I know you can't have a breed standard for a labradoodle, but then I am not a showing person, I am a country person."

Jemima

We have a place like that here that mass produce labradoodles.... :(
The b*tches that are about to whelp are sent out to 'midwife mums' until they've given birth and then after a couple of weeks they all go back to the 'farm'.

Yuk :(

I don't mind people breeding crosses so long as they health tested,  its just the shear amount of puppies being produced I'm worried about.

"Cavapoo - All the benefits of the outstanding nature of the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel without the health issues."

*Shakes head in dismay...*

There is mention of an affix for the labs on the site, and a google brings up some test results for two dachshunds of that (or similar) prefix. Also a film company with a similar name that seems to be connected.

On their web site they say they have a pet shop licence. A person only has a pet shop licence if they are 'buying in and reselling livestock' in this case puppies?  So are they dealing in puppies too?

A person cannot be KC an accredited breeder unless all puppies bred by the said person are registered with the KC. Therefore it is not possible to register cross breeds such as labradoodles, cockerpoos is it?  Or have I lost the plot! So how can they be KC accredited breeders?

> >Therefore it is not possible to register cross breeds such as labradoodles, cockerpoos is it?

Yes they can be registered on the Activity register.

Apart from the activity register they also breed pedigree labs by the looks of it.

So can you be an accredited breeder and reg some pedigree puppies on the normal puppy register and others (crossbreeds - labradoodles etc)on the activity providing all parents from both pedigree and cross breed have been health screened prior to mating? Am I understanding this correctly? 

It makes a mockery of the whole scheme if, what certainly appears to be a puppy farm, with puppies kept entirely kennelled, can register and comply with it

> It makes a mockery of the whole scheme if, what certainly appears to be a puppy farm, with puppies kept entirely kennelled, can register and comply with it

Not the first time someone has questioned that.

This website makes me sick. How many puppies have they sold to pay maintain such a large property.  Poor Jess.  Up for rehoming, aged 4 years old and already produced three litters.  Says it all. The KC need to come down with a very large hammer on this type of establishment.

you'd think so wouldnt you but sadly its ppl like this that makes the kennel club alot of money :( most ppl on here dont have many litters so thers not as much money coming from us like there is with them!
makes me sick how ppl can treat dogs!!!!!
xx

As I read it you cannot be an Accredited breeder if you do not comply for all the dogs you breed.

Perhaps this is the evidence the OP is looking for to get them kicked off if they are listed.

Could well be :-)

agree ...this surely is a loophole that needs to be closed - this is quite obviously a puppy farm and I fail to see how the KC can accept this kind of breeder onto their Accredited Breeders Scheme ...

however... if they are mostly producing cross breeds I also fail to see how the KC is making loads of money from them as 'Doodles' cannot be KC registered ...or am I missing something ?

Yvonne

I wish I wasn't so nosey and not looked at their website those older girls for re-homing almost broke my heart.

Does it actually say they're a member of the Kennel Club ABS?  They claim to be accredited, but don't state how, or have I missed something?  I think that particular loop hole should be closed, the KC can't do anything as the word 'accredited' isn't for their sole use, but it does imply to those who don't know better, that they are perhaps a member of the KC scheme when they aren't, and couldn't possibly be. 

I wondered about the word "Accredited" which kept popping up, but with no mention of by whom?  IF they are KC accredited I wonder how far the KC scheme can encompass the breeding of non pedigrees anyway?  I don't think it was at all in the frame of reference for the ABS.  Also thought that if they are members, perhaps they are attempting to get round it by splitting into who breeds which - one partner breeding pedigrees the other oodles and poos?

I was also fascinated by their apparent definition of puppy farm - apparently anyone who breeds a litter in the house!  In their opinion it is impossible to succesfully rear a litter "in the kitchen" for anything bigger than a toy breed!

Unless people ask not to be you can brign up a list of KCABS breeders for a given breed on the puppy search facility on the KC website.

>We are not breeders of designer dogs and will not line breed or in breed at any time. We are completely opposed to the many breeding practices that take place for the show ring which inevitably end in genetic illnesses and mental health problems.<

>The RSPCA and the BBC have recently made a programme on these problems. It can be viewed on line through several sources. Just type pedigree dogs into google and you will be able to access several sites showing the programme.<

If a "Labradoodle" is not a designer cross breed, then why use the term Labradoodle, why not be honest and say this is a labrador poodle cross breed dog? This just seems to me to be dishonest. To use Jemima's programme to back up their claims against all KC breeders equally smacks of double standards. It denies that their are good breeders out there who do test all their breeding stock and do the best for their dogs.

Brainless in reply to an email.  I sent to the KC awhile ago an email asking about breeders that have various breeds and are accredited but only register one breeed with the KC (the one they are accredited with) and not all, asking was that permissable?  The reply was that an accredited breeder must be accredited for all the breeds they own and produce puppies from and list all on the KC register.  An accredited breeder should not be doing both register with the KC some litters and register other litters elsewhere or selling puppies with just a pedigree.

I am thinking that this kennel is possible registered with the 'alternative' registration scheme because they also allow breeders who register with them to be 'accredited breeders' too. If that is the case they should say so as it is confusing the consumer who automatically will be thinking KC accredited when viewing the site.  Even more so when they say health screened parents because that is what the consumer is asked to look for an (KC)   accredited breeder who health screens their breeding dogs. Trading Standards need to be advised as it misleading information.

By registering with an alternative registration company the information given on the forms to the consumer is not always traceable.  It would but (I am not saying this is the case with this particular kennel) but as they do have a pet shop licence they could if they wish buy in puppies from elsewhere reg with the alternative reg company all under the heading of parents health screened but they were bred by someone else, elsewhere - maybe not even by health screened parents. All these things are possible and even more so when using alternative registration companies to register litters of puppies.

google Wentwood Livestock Agency.......and Wentwood Equestrian........and Wentwood Miniature Dachshunds...and Poodogs?!......

"Once you have chosen a puppy at 8 weeks of age onwards or if you cannot keep your puppy after purchase for any reason whatsoever we will have the puppy back and care for him on your behalf for a period up to a maximum of 7 days. After this period we will rehome the puppy but no payment or refund will be made.

Adult dogs purchased from us can be returned and we will care for them until they can be rehomed without charge. However we will not make any refund or payment.

This is on the basis of the puppy/dog being in good health and being returned to our kennels at your own cost."

Wow! That's a caring breeder, isn't it?

I had a quick look at their very flash website which I can see would make the GP think they were very good. I had a look through their puppies and counted that they have 7 litters of various puppies ready to go their homes in January alone. No wonder they needed 10 whelping kennels. How on earth are 7 litters of puppies cared for properly?!

On one of the labradoodle forums it says this place sells puppies they haven't bred,also that they don't use the BVA health tests but the "police health tests" whatever they may be.

I was interested to see that they are very scathing of show dogs/show breeders, yet are happy to pormote that several of the dogs and bitches have "X number of  champions" in their pedigrees - very hard to be a Ch without showing - OK, with the labs maybe they are referring to FT Chs, but for Poodles etc?

Going back to the ABS question, I fully understand the requirement to comply with the scheme requirements for all breeds owned and bred - but I don't think the scheme has the scope or the rules to cope with non-pedigree breeds - another slip up in its regulations and operation perhaps?

I thought they maybe using this company as they do allow breeders to be 'accredited breeders', however they say they cannot register crossbreeds  and give labradoodles as an example.  So if it not this one or the KC then they maybe using another one that does allow both pedigree and the x breeds to be registered and the breeder to be accredited with both. Unless of course what they write on their web site maybe untrue.  Has anyone asked??
http://www.dogregclub.co.uk/read_latest_dog_lovers_news.php?news_id=20

They could be registering them on the KC Activity reg, which complies with KC Reg.
I would think the KC would take a dim view of an accredited breeder using another registry for their 'others'. There are a few out there, DogLovers etc. But registering them on KC Activity still satisfies the KC.