I do hope this link works for you all. This is a severly mismarked Bernese Pup. Her breeder has called her Snow White..you can see why. She is off to her now Mum and Dad and the breeder is obviously torn with letting her go. She is a remarcleble pup. Hope you enjoy...just to warn you it is not sad but I cried buckets. LOL
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=191694014173954&comments
Aileen

Oh god love her but I much prefer yours Aileen.
Do you think her eyes will stay blue all her life ? She is a real darling.

I expect her eye will stay blue, not enough pigment although her nose has some black so who knows, but pups eyes are usually brown by 6 weeks.
Aileen

Ahh, what a sweetie, I think she 'grew into' her colouring and her nose was going black. Yes, her eyes will stay blue.
For anyone else who watches without tissues turn the sound down!

I'm assuming she's been BAER tested? Colouring like that carries a very high risk of total deafness.

I doubt it JG the breeder will be letting her go as a pure pet. She will never be bred. She is just very mismarked but does carry a lot of black. If you look closley you will see from the shoulders back she is much more like a bern. You can pick out the rust brown futher back.
Aileen

The colouring on the rest of the body is irrelevent when it comes to hearing; the white head and blue eyes are a big signal that the breeder shouldn't home the pup without finding out for sure if the new owners are getting a 'special needs' dog. They need to be prepared from the outset. It would be highly irresponsible and unfair otherwise, because of the different training methods needed.

What a wee pickle!  I hope she goes on to have a wonderful happy life x

She is not mine JG and she lives in Norway I know nothing about the breeders  ethics and was just posting for you to enjoy not to have holes picked in it. Sorry if I have offended you.
Aileen

Edited to add. Do all breeds with blue eyes and white in the clolour undergo BEAR testing, such as collies/malamutes/sibes etc.. I know it is recomended for Dallies but not a requirement. How big a part do the blue eyes play as as far as I am aware very few if any Dallies have blue eyes. It has bever been suggested in Berns and I have never heard of it posing a problem.
Aileen

>How big a part do the blue eyes play as as far as I am aware very few if any Dallies have blue eyes.

Dals with one or two blue eyes are very much more likely to be deaf (about 8 times more likely than brown-eyed ones); the fact that blue eyes are not allowed in the UK standard has meant that our levels of deafness are significantly lower than in the US, where blue eyes are acceptable.

The genetics of deafness has interesting information.

What a cutie :)

My mum had several collies over the years with blue eyes and white faces but none were deaf, although I think it (deafness in collies) is more common now with people increasingly breeding merle to merle for money making purposes!

Oh how gorgeous , if I was her breeder there would be no way anyone else would get her , she'd be all mine ! :)

Oh shes beautiful:)

Really hope they find the right home for her:)

I suppose it depends on how you view your dogs. I would not keep her as she could not be shown or bred from and I have not got the space for such an obvious non starter in the show/breeding stakes...a pup who looked good to start but failed later in life due to bad scores.temp etc.. is a different thing though and would (usually) stay for life. The only pup I have ever homed later in life was Shabby who was fighting with her Mum and making everyone stressed. (Now a very happy settled speyed girlie in her new home). My house is not that big and I have a max limit of 3/4 Bernies!!!
I believe she has a very special home to go to.
Aileen

She is absolutley beautiful. Very mismarked but so long as she has no health problems and goes to someone who will love her what does it matter? I could take to her in a heartbeat lol. I would def keep her if I were her breeder. Thank you for posting the vid Merlot. I'll just go and sort my mascara out now!!

Kind Regards

She is gorgeous and looks a bit OES-like in the early pics.
I don't like Bernese to have a lot of white on the face but she doesn't really look like a bernese with all the tan and black missing. She is very sweet. I wonder how often she will be mistaken for a large collie :-D :-D

Aww such a cutie! :)

Gosh, that song and cute pup had me filling up half way through too, prob more to do with remembering my own pups leaving home though I guess. :-( The pup just looks soooooooo............ strange, I would be very worried about defects too I'm afraid, one of the first things that would be crossing my mind as a breeder.

I'm glad the pup has a good home to go to, but I too would have held on for vet checks, I hope everything turns out ok, pup is going to be loved no matter what I guess.

So sad when they leave............

Wow, that's a stunning puppy - I bet she'll never meet anyone who knows the breed, it's clear enough from the head shape but the mismark will completely throw everyone. Beautiful!

> Do all breeds with blue eyes and white in the clolour undergo BEAR testing, such as collies/malamutes/sibes etc..

This article shows breeds of dog prone to deafness that should be tested: http://www.dermapet.com/articles/hearing.html

"Over 60 breeds of dogs and ten breeds of cats have now been recognized with hearing impairment. Dog breeds with the highest incidence include the Dalmatian (22% in the U.K.), Setter (14.3%), Border Collie (10%), Australian Cattle Dog (12.6%) Cocker Spaniel (6.8%) and White Bull Terrier (19.1%) (Strain 1999). In the U.K., out of the 4,500 Dalmatians tested, 21% had congenital hearing loss. Of these, approximately 14% were deaf in one ear (unilateral) and 7% in both (bilateral). It has also been established that dogs with blue eyes were more likely to be deaf."

certainly something to be done in collies, bull terriers etc.  A friend when she bred her Border Collies always BAER tested as she had a half white face bitch who was normal hearing but she did produce one pup with unilateral deafness.

We have had a number of white bull breed crosses at training class that have been deaf, but they were not responsibly bred.

I am really not up-to-date with colour genetics of Sibes/Malamutes etc. but I understand the gene which causes the blue eyes in those Northern breeds is not linked to deafness. I believe it's more of a colour dilution which gives the blue eyes...

I know cat genetics better, and it would be like comparing the blue eyes of a Siamese/Colourpoint (which is lack of pigment in the iris, and isn't linked to deafness) to the gene for White in cats, which also gives a blue eye, and does give rise to a high percentage of deafness.

Aaaaaaaaaw I'd keep her- She is beautiful :-)

Just out of interest why do so many people like this puppy? On the forum we are always criticising people selling strange colours / markings etc for more money, but as this thread has shown lots of people do seem to like the non standard / different puppy. People who like this puppy what is it that attracts you to her? is it just because she is different from a normal Bernese?

I think any puppy has a cute factor ! She is lovely but must say i do prefer the standard markings :-)

I wondered this point too, helensdogz, but did not want to raise it in case I got shot down in flames....!!!!
Ps I have bred a Bernese litter and had a mismarked puppy with 1 blue and 1 brown eye. She was sold to a pet home and they called her Panda.!!. But she did not have as much white as "Snow White"
Anna

It just goes to show that there will always be a market for 'rare' colours, and the unscrupulous breeders (the reputable ones won't be breeding them on purpose, and won't sell them at a hiked price) will always cash in on this.

Just because she's unusual I guess. I always tell my friends not to worry about mismarks because someone always wants the unusual stand out one, even if it's a show disqualification. She is just so striking - but no, I wouldn't buy her (if I was into Bernese) because I like to show mine as well as doing pet stuff.

If i just wanted a pet and I no some breeders cull their puppies she would def a place in my home/heart if I myself didn't have so many pets already. Just because she is mismarked doesn't make her any less wanted- but because she is a puppy it would still be Aaaaaaaaaw beautiful- all puppies are cute no matter what marks they are- not about to say oooh that puppy is ugly, it should be destroyed..

I am planning on buying a show quality Cane Corso in the future- in hopes to maybe do some show :-)

I can't watch this now i'm off the site.. :-(

Pretty much all puppies are cute. But like Merlot I wouldn't choose a mismarked Bernie either..
I bet her new owners are well chuffed with her all the same :-)

I don't believe they are even on the "Import Register" so you'll be unlucky regarding showing in the U.K.

>I don't believe they are even on the "Import Register" so you'll be unlucky regarding showing in the U.K.

Dollface is in Canada (the flag beside a poster's name is a little clue to their whereabouts ;-) )

If I wasn't into showing I would have nothing against having a mis marked puppy, but only in this case if it was BAER hearing tested as normal or only unilaterally deaf.

I wouldn't home a deaf pup or rear one.

Culling HEALTHY pups is against British Kennel club rules.

Just out of interest why do so many people like this puppy? On the forum we are always criticising people selling strange colours / markings etc for more money, but as this thread has shown lots of people do seem to like the non standard / different puppy. People who like this puppy what is it that attracts you to her? is it just because she is different from a normal Bernese?

I think that is easy to answer, your on a dog site, if this pup had 3 ears and 5 legs it would still be cute, we would still say ahhhh, bless! I think the pup looks strange, wouldn't want to have her/him myself, but no denying cuteness, a pup is a pup. This is how puppy farmers sell their pups because we are all pulled in by the cute factor, what you have to do is over-ride it and imagine a mature dog, perhaps with problems then you can over-ride the cute factor wherever you are looking at one. :-)

I don't believe they are even on the "Import Register" so you'll be unlucky regarding showing in the U.K.

I'm in Canada- I said if I just wanted a pet puppy I would give a home- but then again if I was the breeder I would prob keep the pup... But Iam not looking for a pet puppy I want a show puppy- well in hopes the puppy I do buy will be good enough for show ect- I also don't want a furry dog either lol prefer the Brack type breeds and I Love the Italian Mastiff have been doing alot of research on them cause I no my crew is not getting any younger and I believe I found a lovely breeder :-)

Either way the pup is still cute like any other puppy anybody who loves puppies will still be saying Aaaaaaaaaaw no matter what the lil one looks like lol :-)

> Just out of interest why do so many people like this puppy? On the forum we are always criticising people selling strange colours / markings etc for more money, but as this thread has shown lots of people do seem to like the non standard / different puppy. People who like this puppy what is it that attracts you to her? is it just because she is different from a normal Bernese?

I like her because she is cute like all puppies, there are very, very few puppies that I don't find adorable! Would I take her home - yes, if I just wanted a dog, no, if I wanted a Bernese. No one has actually mentioned that this dog was sold for more money than a perfectly marked bernese would be and I would doubt very much that this would be the case. I would imagine that if anything it would be sold for less.

It is not the fact that unusual colours or mismarks exist that annoys me, it is the breeder's cynical attempt to make more money from gullible people by stating that these faults in some way make the dog more valuable.

This is in reply generaly not pionted at you Dakkobear.

Seeing as no one here know either breeder or pup, and I posted it as it was I thought a wonderfull tribute from a carefull caring breeder I have been upset by some of the comments. I wish I had not posted now. Pity even a nice piece like this has to be sullied this way. No one was trying to sell a "Rare" colour or make money out of it. The breeder was just commenting on her attachment for the pup.
Obviously some of you cannot accept that on occasions there are loving breeders out in the wide world.
Thank you for you nice comments those of you who saw it as I did.
Aileen

Well I for one loved it - in fact, so much so, I shared it on my FB page too.
Thank you Aileen.  Hugs to you.

And to the cynical posters - thank you for reminding me why I don't post much here anymore!!!
The side of 'the dog world' I have grown to loathe after 20 years+ of being 'in dogs'.

I've just managed to watch this, what a cutey that puppy is. I've no sound to my PC, which was probably a wise thing for me..

I don't think anyone's denying that she's very sweet - all puppies are sweet! - but it would be reassuring to know that the breeder has responsibly researched and taken into account the possible health implications of her colouring so that there's no chance of her new owners having a nasty surprise.

Merlot Sorry I was not trying to criticise you or the breeder. I too think the puppy is sweet. i was just musing on why people seem to like the puppy that is "different" so much. and why they are willing to pay a premium for one. Thanks for posting the link.

> but it would be reassuring to know that the breeder has responsibly researched and taken into account the possible health implications of her colouring so that there's no chance of her new owners having a nasty surprise.

ditto

> This is in reply generaly not pionted at you Dakkobear.
>

Having just re-read my earlier post , can I make it clear that I was in no way commenting on the breeder of this puppy - just the ones who regularly advertise 'rare' puppies at over-inflated prices.

This puppy is obviously very close to the breeder's heart and I'm sure it was a huge wrench for her to have to let it go to another home but I'm sure she will be keeping in close touch with its progress. Sometimes we have to make decisions with our heads not our hearts and despite the puppy being an absolute sweetie it is of no use to someone who wishes to show or breed.

You are right Merlot, it is lovely to see such a loving breeder and it just re-iterates what many say on here about finding it hard to let puppies go. Apart from that, I'm so glad I had no sound or I'd have been in floods :-)

>I wish I had not posted now.

I'm glad you did! I never knew that there were mismarked Bernese, so I've learned something there (always good to learn!) and other people on here have learned that there are possible health issues with such colouring; that it's not just a superficial cosmetic matter. So that's good too!