> when shes awake shes not quite with me

Definitely sounds right to me.  I often look into their eyes and I'm sure they're on another planet.  (or had a spliff!)  :-)  :-)  :-)

I agree that it's the pain.  This is when I feel so sorry for them, and know it's my fault they're like it!  The licking is stress, so yes, the pain is getting to her.

still no pups :( :( shes panting away sat with hubby she hasnt got got glazed look yet she keep taking herself to her shelping box then comes back into the living room ,got about 3h sleep :( she was in and out her box all night xx

I bet that she has had enough by now, poor girl.  If she hasn't started by this afternoon, may be worth a vet check?

funny enough ive just rang them :)
their happy with what ive said and to ring back if i get worried but to be honist jean im not worried about her ,but i think if shes not had them by tomorrow i will ring they siad they will fit me in so here goes for today shes even had some food this morning for the 1st time in about 4days shes not been eating till lunch and then late at night so she must have alttle more room ;) xxx

remember my post  WL  I went through the same thing and my girl eventually went on day 63 ..hope its not to long now ..good luck

Roni

yes i do roni LOL was thinking about it last night ;) shes on day 60 now i hope she goes before then :( ,if i carnt sleep id like to be looking after her and her babbies LOL ;)
thankyou xxx

Sounds like things are starting to get going!

Glad she has held out after the 56 days for you,  any pups yet hopefully it'll be soon x

Fingers crosed. all goes well x

Good luck fingers crossed all goes well x

thanks guys still nothing yet shes going to keep me waiting i just know it LOL ,she not even looseing any plug yet :( xx

and shes just eat some chicken so not tonight it looks like :( xx

You never know Jo , my girl ate her dinner and produced a pup 30 mins later , she even ate between pups being born so don't give up hope yet. Mind you it would be nice if she waited til the morning and had a daytime litter. Fingers crossed x

My girl ate a full dinner of complete and then went on to have a dish of raw chicken/tripe......in between pups 5 & 6

Ha ha , don't you love these bitches that haven't read the books !

Yes, Ellie has eaten right up till a few hours before birth with both litters.

:) well just took her temp its 37.5 so not low enough yet but i carnt go by that lol ive only took it for the 1st time last night it was 38 so im think i need a temp drop of around 37 or lower? and for it to stay like that for 6h or more? lol i feel like she will never have the pups now :( xxx

when my bitches temp is around 38 during pregnancy she drops to 36.5 before whelping, but to be honest she kind of feels colder anyway so don't really need to take the temp. Good luck though hope things go smoothly for you.... my little singleton is now 3.5 weeks old and has been a complete nightmare, but at least he is here now and fighting fit :-)

Any babies yet?????

wow the time has flown bless him! glad hes fit and well now :)
shes showing no signs at all really she just pants on and off i think roni (starryeye)was right lol shes going to go to 63 days ive never had a girl go to date on their 1st litter and it dont happen much in this breed xxx

Fingers crossed she wait until morning for you.  Hope you manage to get some rest.

just took her temp its 37.4 so still about same.
thanks reikiangel xxx

It's a full degree down from this afternoon.. isn't that an indicator...? or does it have to stay down?

it has to stay down now for over 6h i think ,god im so tired i carnt think stright any more and thats before pups come lol xxx

ok ive been thinking ???? do i take her date from progesrone or day of mating she would of ovualted the 3rd nov she was mated the 5th nov so that makes her day 63 from ovulation today or 61 from mateing ???????? ]
im starting to drive myself mad !!!
xx

shes kept me up again, just moveing from box to floor shreading her paper she been sick and seems so differnt today her tum is making some very strange noises bubbleing and gurguling got it wrong shes day 62 from ovulation and day 61 from mateing might have her checked by vet later xx

I take from ovulation as its more accurate (63 days give or take a day or so).  Some people don't know when their bitch ovulates so they have no choice but to go by mating.  I had to go by mating with my first bitch and she was 5 days early which nearly caught me out, taught me a lesson for future litters!  Good luck Whitelilly, hope your girlie starts soon for both your sakes.

this is the 1st time ive used progesrone tests on any of my girls ,and all have gone early ,even her sister went 5 days early with very small litter of 3 ,this girl looks like shes haveing 8-10 so i epxpected her to be early so was looking at every sign she was showing and thinking this is it :(
so will have to see how today goes ,shes not eating tho and not drink her water ,her face looks thinner, she looks like shes lost so much weight shes not been eating well now for about 8 days, plus since i started worming her from day 40 her poo has been very soft i will be glad when i can stop the wormer ,shes only been eating chicken and this makes her poo softer :(
thankyou Zajak xxx

She might last until tomorrow (day 63) but could go early, sounds like they're getting ready.  How exciting.

I've always been told take it from ovulation day, they apparrently don't go a day over, that doesn't help if fertalised later lol.

Good luck and hope you get some rest or she does a daytime litter for you.  Give her a pep talk.

Hugs to your girl. xx

shes in her bed going mad at the news paper shes riping it with her teeth ,no contrations yet tho
fingers crossed reikiangel, thankyou xxx

Hope things have moved along since your last post.

Any news yet?
Good luck for both you and your girl White lily

No news yet :(  shes taking her time thats for sure!!! i was hopeing to have at least 1 pup by now LOL shes still only at 1st stage ,gone from panting and bed shredding to sleeping and dont want to move off my sofa bed.
will keep you updated ,please let these pups come soon my nerves are shatterd xxx

Bless her, i bet she's getting tired and fed up now!

yes shes not eating anything since 1am this morning poor girl,i feel like shes been like this forever!!
xxx

been following this topic with interest, really feeling for you, you must be exhausted and that's before the pups arrive lol.

Really hope things move along and you get your little bundles of joy sooner rather than later, hope mum is ok too, one of our friends has a staff that had puppies and she lost so much weight she looked emaciated(sp) she picked up tho once she stopped feeding them.

fingers crossed for a safe delivery xx

thankyou kizziecat ,yes im very tired and want so much to know the pups are ok ,this is worst part "the waiting game" once mum gets going i go on over drive LOL
xxx

I came straight on to check the news, she's really keeping you guessing isn't she!!

yes she still hasnt had any yet lol
xxx

right with you WL ....hope its soon...

Roni

well it looks like tomorrow now which is 63 day from ovulation roni ;) you was right.
xxx

Well White Lilly all that worry to no purpose - to be honest with you I think you started into labour long before your bitch did - try to get some rest and you may be right and it will be tomorrow - good luck and I hope you get what you are hoping for.

> Well White Lilly all that worry to no purpose - to be honest with you I think you started into labour long before your bitch did...

*chuckles* well spotted Nova, I've been there with my cats in the past!
I hope you get some rest White Lilly, and my blessings for a trouble-free and speedy delivery when it does happen :)

i agree 100% there nova, shes still very restless so i cant rest now sadly im worried just incase she starts and i dont wake even tho im there with her, well only 1h and 50mins before its tomorrow ;) xxx
thankyou :)

;) thankyou msTemeraire xxx

Good Luck Jo, it wont be long now, its amazing how you wake up and proceed on overdrive as soon as the contractions start.

whisper in mist's ear I said get a move on.

Lynn

hi lynn ive told her ;) she just waged her tail :) shes still happy bless her xxx

white lilly, I logged in tonight expecting news!!

Can anyone wonder that we go grey? 

A little private word can work wonders; don't care whether anyone believes it or not, it works:)

Erm ... excuse me Miss White Lily but please could you get a wriggle on as your mum is very tired and stressed now and needs to have at least a little bit of energy so she can help you with your puppies. You have been keeping her worried and waiting for long enough now sweetie.