Apologies if this has been discussed before...

What are all of you breeders thoughts on whether or not to give puppies first vaccinations before they leave for their new home?  None of our dogs have had the first vaccination when we've collected them.  Isn't it the case that many vets will want to start the regime from scratch when they have already had the first vacc at the breeders vets, even if they use the same regime/product?

I'd be interested to hear the arguements.

I don't as a rule but when I have I've made the new owners to be ensure that their vet uses the same one as mine so that they can have just the second and last one.

Yes for exactly that reason.
I've only given full vaccination if I've kept the puppy longer while the new family are on holiday/have a houseful of visitors. :)

hi i'm not a breeder,
My pups breeder had already decided to have there 1st vac before they left him.
I had to phone a couple of vets before I found one with the same brand as the others would re start the course which I didn't to happen.
If the new owners know the brand it would be ok

Nessa 

I think it depends on what age the pup is going to the new home.  If by 7/8 wks then I can't see any reason to give 1st jabs at the breeder's - they will happen at the same time at the new home.  If going at 10 wks or later, the breeder should give both jabs so pup can go home and be ready to socialise. 

Just so

I only vaccinate puppies if I have them longer than 8-9 weeks old
as I don't want to delay their socialisation.
If puppy is going to it's new home at 8-9 weeks old then I don't vaccinate
as unless the new owners vets use the same brand of vaccine they start
the puppy on vaccinations all over again. So puppy immune system is bombarded
again - something which personally don't want to do.
Puppy's have enough stress to go through by going to their new homes, possibly having
their food stuff changed, vaccines etc, why put extra stress on puppy's system to cope with?
My own vet is happy with this approach.

If the new owners can prove that their vets have the same vacc then we only do the one, but we usually hold for a little longer and do both, all the new owners were happy with that arrangement

The only circumstances I would vaccinate a pup prior to going to new home is if they were to be with me for more than 12 weeks. I wont vaccinate any of my own dogs before 10 weeks anyway, so vaccinations are done at 10 and 12 weeks. I would also want a vaccinated pup to be with me the week following vaccination - just so that for my own peace of mind I know there are no problems.

I collected a pup a couple of years ago from N Scotland, I timed it with a holiday, so pup was 11 weeks when I was due to bring her home. I'd contacted my own vet to see whether I should get her first vaccination done there, but he told me no, as if a different brand of vaccination is used it can potentially lead to problems and quite often they would have to do both vaccinations again anyway.

Interestingly one of my summer pups went to a vet who wanted to come in and vaccinate his pup when she was 6 weeks old :-O all ready for her 2nd vaccination when he collected her at 8 weeks. Yikes. Pup with live vaccination into a little of unvaccinated pups. He respected my opinion (that was a no by the way) and took her off at 8 weeks to adminster vaccinations then. Have to admit I did watch him like a hawk when he came to visit the first time after our phone conversation ... I didn't quite frisk him, but he got the gist!!

> Isn't it the case that many vets will want to start the regime from scratch when they have already had the first vacc at the breeders vets, even if they use the same regime/product?
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I got my pup at 11 weeks old. He'd had is first vac with the breeder at 10 weeks old. I got the details of the vac from the breeder, to pass on to my vet, but my vet said it didn't matter as they were all standard anyway (only repeating whet my vet told me, others may have a different experience than this),

You have a v enlightened vet, mastifflover.

Although the jabs are all standard and do (it is commonly thought) work to boost each other, they are not tested in this manner and so the manufacturers will give no guarantee that they will work when used with other brands.  Vets then play it safe and insist on using the same brand, because the vaccine manufacturer can't say whether they will work with another brand.  It is really just a load of people covering their own backsides...