I sold my pups yesterday.
I done a home check on the one family and ll appeared well. this was when the pups were 3 weeks old. I agreed that the pups could leave as soon as they were 8 weeks old and had the first injection. This happened the "husband" came and collected the pup, yesterday. I was supposed to be visiting with them 3 weeks after the puppy had been homed and if there were any issues then I would give a full refund and take the puppy home with me.

Well I noticed within about 1/2 hour of them leaving the pups vacc card had been dropped in the passage. I called my boyfriend to stay with my dogs and took the card to the home which I vetted. Problem was the house was empty! I knocked a neeighbours door and I was told the council offered them a house a week ago and they accepted

i have no idea where the pup now is, and my vet wouldnt chip them as he thought they were too small! Im concerned as there should have been no reson not to tell me they were moving. They appeared nice people but now im not so sure any advice on what I can do as the neighbour wouldnt tell me where they had moved to, and leagally there has been no crime commited, I was also told that my contract that they signed agreeing to allow me to vist with them in 3 weeks, and the pup could not be sold on if it became unwanted (it has to be returned to me) wasnt even worth the paper it was written on, and wont stand up in a court.

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP???

They may have taken their phone number with them or did you have a mobile number, a letter sent to the old address will no doubt be forwarded so you could write and hope. It is more than likely that they do not understand your feelings and in the general chaos of moving and the excitement of a new home and new puppy they simply forgot you would want to know they had moved.

I have tried calling the landline and the line is cut off!

I think sending a letter is a great idea thanks and I will do it! howeve surly the husband would have mentioned they had moved property though?

Did they actually print their old address in the contract as well? What about activating free insurance (Pet Plan or KC) -didn't you get an address for that? An e-mail address? Mobile number? I'd have a strong word with the vet if I was you -how utterly, utterly stupid. I have microchipped tiny toy pups at 4 weeks of age and that was no problem at all!

Playing devil's advocate here, I guess it could have been your clause about taking puppy back and repaying money after x number of weeks that made them NOT tell you they were moving -it would probably worry a lot of people (I know it would me) so maybe they decided to play safe and vanish...... Legally, once somebody has paid you money for a puppy and you have accepted it and handed the puppy over it is theirs to do what they want with and you cannot demand to have it back at any time. The best you can do is make sure to let them know you are always WILLING to have a puppy or dog back.

I do know this awful feeling -I had it happen with my fist litter; a lady got a puppy and then sold it on and I never found out where she ended up.

Did you tell the neighbour why you wanted to find them ?? if you did they probably dont want to get involved. If no luck then try other neighbours

if the neighbour knows thier new address then I would find a friend who has the confidence to knock and pretend the have a important parcel or something  which they need to deliver do they know thier new address ..they might fall for it .
But You will have to leave it for a good few days or they may get suspicious.

or if you can afford it get a P det to find them for you  they have ways and means.

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Another thought is Face book.

If you find them ask to be their friend and message them that you went round with the forgotten vaccination card and they had obviously forgotten to say they had been re-housed and could you have their current address to send it on.

I would do the same in the letter to their old address, as hopefully they have signed for the Post office to divert mail, or left a forwarding address at the house or the council.

Iv wrote a letter but so far nothing :(

have told the neighbour why but she said that if they wanted me to know where they are they would have told me! I still have heard othing and Ive tried contacting the local council infomation services and online but so far no luck! I wish I had paid more attention and not just settled on everything seams inorder! I just hope the little pup is well looked after and if not returned to me! :( I am not going to give up though!

Samie,

When you spoke to the neighbour did you just tell them that you had the vaccination card to pass onto the owner, or did you go into the whole 3 week visit and contract thing with them? Which IMO would put the neighbour on alert that he/she needed to protect their whereabouts as you may be after the puppy being returned.

It may well have been an oversight on their part with the move if it all happened within a week and with the excitement of collecting a puppy though if I'm really honest, I don't know how anyone could forget.

Have you come on too strongly? That is my only worry. You have to be a friend to your puppy owners, a guide, not make them feel worried or come across as someone having trouble letting go of their pup who is going to be in their life - unwanted. I'm only pointing this out as I find it strange why if you had visited their home previously and everything was fine, why they now want rid of your presence.

They should have contacted you to let you know how pup is by now, but they haven't which means one of two things, their wary of you, which means you have lost complete contact now forever as even if you trace them they don't have to open the door to you and to be honest it would scare the life out of me you turning up on the doorstep like that I would feel stalked.

Or they have lied from the beginning for whatever reason.

I hope that the letter that you wrote is nice and friendly.

It's hard on the Internet you could be a really lovely, friendly person, but from reading your post the 3 week visit is only appreciated if put across in the right way. I visit quite a lot of my adult pups but only at the invite of the owners and they often pop in to see me (sometimes without an invite :-) ) but it has to be that way, you can't be overly pushy, which is how to me you've come across on the Internet, it makes people back away. :-)

I would be very upset to lose contact with one of my pups, I feel for you, I really do, but in this inst, they know where you are, it's going to have to be left to them to contact you hun, sorry but that is the way it will have to be.

I told her i had the vacc card and the dog needed it to get her 2nd vaccine without it the first vaccine was usless and would cost them more money, she just said she would take it in if that was the case and if she sees them again shell give it to them!

Ive tried to act as thoough I was very friendly and even made sure there was plenty of tea coffee and biscuits here when they came to see the pups :) so there would be no problems like this where I knew nothing about my pups!
I wouldnt want to just "turn up" on someones door step and invade their space so to speak, in saying that though I just wish my contracts would stand up in court because I would have her back in a flash!

At the moment I can only hope that shes doing well and is being spoilt!

But there is still that nagging thing that comes up all the time, If I could I would go and get her just to ease my mind,

> just wish my contracts would stand up in court because I would have her back in a flash!
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The contract is only a statement of intent and an outline of what is being sold, in that they are legal documents.  For example if your context says that the animal is sold as a companion, that is' parents have been health tested and pup is healthy at time of sale.

You are covering yourself in that the owner cannot then claim the dog was destined for breeding, so if the testicles don't drop  the mouth goes wrong they have no claim for loss of value etc.

The come back to breeder part is only the same as Comet/Curry's offering to remove your old fridge when they deliver your new one, a service offered, not something they have to take you up on, as THE DOG IS THEIR PROPERTY once sold to them.

This I believe is one reason in the USA so many pups in show circles are sold on Co-ownership, the breeder remaining part owner, so really the puppy buyer has only  50% ownership of the dog, and cannot sell it on etc as it doesn't belong just to them.

Mind you you might have trouble enforcing co-ownership of a dog that no longer lives with you and for which you do not pay anything.   I remember seeing a case reported where the court found in favour of the owner in possession of the dog, but don't know what the circumstances of the disagreement were.