I have a stud who is from a great bloodline, has an excellent disposition and excellent confirmation. However, he doesn't seem to like to breed. He has sired a couple of litters from natural breedings, but he has been mostly uninterested and most of his litters have been by A.I.

I am really not sure what caused this problem or if it can be fixed. Every professional that I have shared this with has a different opinion. Further, the information that I have found on my own has been confusing/contradictory at best. I would appreciate any insights that anyone here would have to offer!

Hello Islay
I take it you are not in the U.K. as you have used
A.I. From what I have read on the subject although hormone treatment is an option,dogs who have no natural instinct or interest to mate should not be bred from as they may pass this trait on, but a dog who was not used early enough as a youngster can also show no interest in bitches that are in season.
An unwillingness to mate is the exception rather than the rule but it does happen,it does make you stop and think is nature trying to tell us something!
Regards Carole

I think you can be quite on target Carole about nature telling us something.
A friend of mine breeds collies and says that without her intervention as far as breeding, whelping and rearing a litter, the breed would be long ago extinct.
I for one know another breeder friend who had trouble with her sheltie. She started giving him an herbal treatment everyday called "Mr. Stud" for a few months before mating and now he's got the routine down so to speak. Sounds like you're in the US like me, check out revival health at revivalanimal.com
I am going to try "Mr. Stud" on one of my guys too. I hope it really works.

Carissa

Dear Carole and Carissa:

Thanks for your responses!

Your responses were similar to my own ininitial response. When I first encountered this dog, I thought of this article ( http://www.jabed.com/inx.htm), which mentions the phenomenon of genetic depletion. At the time, I was not interested in owning a stud and passed him over for another dog. Nevertheless, I kept thinking about this dog and later returned and purchased him.

Over the following year, I did a little reading on the subject. I have an older edition of "The Dog's Mind: Understanding Your Dog's Behavior" by Bruce Fogle. In it, the author states that dogs are naturally monogamous. I don't really know enough about the subject of canine behavior to refute this. Nevertheless, "standing at stud," as dogs are now required to do, would not be a normal behavioral pattern for any pack animal.

Carissa, it is interesting that you mention a friend who breeds Collies and is having problems. Collies do have a heightened pack instinct--as do all herding dogs. In my experience, the only dog with a more heightened pack instinct would be the Border Collie, which is closely related to the Collie. This may suggest a behavioral trait that makes it difficult for Collies to function as we would like them to do in terms of breeding. However, this is just not enough evidence to come to any real conculsion and this is just speculation on my part.

I will go ahead and try the product that you suggested. If all else fails, I will just retire him permanently. He is a gorgeous guy with a wonderful temperment--what a shame it would be if I were forced to do so! I don't have a good picture of him at the moment, but I will post one on my page later. This is the URL for a dog that is closely related to him: http://www.silhouette-collies.com/galleries/felicity_gallery/felicity.htm.

Thanks again to both of you!

Denise

Your welcome Denise,
I really hope the product helps you and me both. My guy is beutiful and sweet also it would be a shame if he never gets the hang of things.
Good Luck and keep us updated!

Carissa

Isn`t it always the case that when this happens the dog concerned is always an excellent example of the breed.
In my case it was our champion and because he was not at public stud it was a while,he was over 5 years in fact before I had a female that was not too closely related to him that I could use him on, by which time it was too late.I won`t make that mistake
again!
I hope the `Mr. Stud` works for you both,I don`t think that is available in the U.K.
Good Luck
Carole

I think you can get it through your GP. Just ask for VIAGRA! ROTFLOL!!!!!!

sorry, sorry, sorry............I couldn't help myself. I've got a wicked sense of humor tonight! Must be the hormones! :D

Whatever rings your bell Quinn!!
Yes that was wicked.
Carole

You know, I just realised there is a full moon tonight. It might explain a lot! :)

You might be right!
But I rather think its a wicked sense of humour you have,don`t go blameing Mr. Moon.

Yes, but what about everyone else on the "other" thread? On the whole, most of us aren't quite so "in your face". But you are right. Given the chance I do have a wicked sense of humor. ;)

I`ve lost the plot here, perhaps its because its so late here!
I wasn`t complaining about your `Wicked Humour`
it can come in handy when things on the board get a bit too serious and heavy to lighten things up.
Do I come accross as being `in your face`?
Carole

I didn't take it as a complaint! If anything, I took it as a compliment. :) As for the "in your face" comment it was directed at all the flying fur on the 4 Leigh thread, not you. :) :) :)

hi could you send details of mr stud what herbal Co is it from?

hi where did you order mr stud from / what herbalCo?

Have you tried www. caninenaturalcures.
I am sure they do treatment for a male that does
not want to mate.
Nutkin

Hi Islay

Might be worth getting him checked out by a chiropracter to see if anything is out of alignment that makes him reluctant to mount?

Christine

Hi Very sorry I haven't gotten back with info until now. The holidays are a crazy time of year. Anyway, I'm in the US, not sure if the Co. ships to you or not. You can check out their site at revivalanimal.com
Hope you all had a Merry Christmas!

Carissa

One of my friends is a GSD breeder of over 20 years. Her next door neighbor owns working labs. The lab everyone wants as a stud is completely uninterested in mating, so my friend does the door neighbor a favor and takes care of AI duties for visiting bitches. My friend swears that this lab is gay. :-) If people can be heterosexual, asexual and homosexaul - wonder if animals might be too?

Stacey