Hi i would like to warn those who would like to breed that makesure you get it in writing! ie stud fee or terms of contract .as i have just found out having none of these 2 makes it very differcult if its so called friend ! i had verbal agreement with a friend !!! we agreed fee i use there dog my bitch didn't fall pregnant so when she come back into seaon i took her back to some stud dog i paid her a small fee (i know i didnt have to ) my bitch had puppies 3 . stud owner fone to say if they could come see puppies we agreed when she turned up she showed alot of interest in one of the pups she never said anything to  me or my wife, she was there approxx  1 hour! i had to go leaving them both together & by the time i got back she had gone & my wife said that the stud owner had asked her what will she be get out of it ??? my wife said you best speak to me (husband)!! i was gobsmacked the cheek. i think she wants pup to sell to her friend, as she said that her friend would like one!! i could just say to her you had the agreed fee leave it like that? but i feel she will not ! or sell her pup and deducted the stud fee  i paid her(cheeky) or just to keep the piece give her pup! only on the condition  that i view the friend that i think she going to (give) or sell the pup to! please any suggestion welcome! 

Very difficult to understand your post!

Have you actually paid a stud fee?  Have you got a signed stud agreement saying that XX dog mated your bitch on certain dates so you are able to register them?

If her friend is interested in purchasing a puppy, the studs owner should put them in contact with you - which is normal practice, the majority of studs owners work with the bitches owner in finding suitable new homes for the puppies.

I'm sure you'll get more advice from more experienced people soon.

Hi
yes paid agreed stud fee.
No i didnt sign any agreement as this was verbal argreement between myself & friend.

I would ask the studs owner to sign her part of the litter registration form -

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/download/375/form1.pdf -  if she refuses I would take it up with the KC or you will have trouble registering the litter.  Tell her you are prepared to have DNA tests done to prove parentage.

Good Luck!

No i wouldn't just let her have a pup, you paid a stud fee so that's the end of that part.

If she wants a pup for her or yourself, i would charge them for it.  You could maybe give a slightly reduced fee to her but not silly prices.  State you vet anyone else like you would Jo Blogs turning up.  Are you sure you didn't have a misunderstanding, which can happen.  If not i think she thought you are a soft touch and can tell you anything.  she should also be more understanding as you only have three pups now and it could be due to the genetics on her side (who knows).  is she going to share vets bills.

Hope it all works out amicably for you.  Maybe have a chat to clear the air.

noone should have to sign anything! my boy was used we were paid that was that! i signed the kc form,ive been to see the pups all 11 of them ,i have no claim to them like thay have NO claim to yours!

exactly white lilly they have no right to the pups... did she write out a receipt or anything? if so and it is signed by them (this is what i do with all people using my male) stating the name of the bitch and my male

Eddieluck

Did the stud dog owner sign the KC Litter Registration document at the time of mating?  If not, I think that you should register YOUR puppies online.  If they dispute, I would rather pay for DNA testing than let someone screw me. 

They are not the stud dog owners puppies to sell.  I can't believe that a so called friend asked what they would get out of it!  If any dispute causes you to lose a friend, it doesn't sound to me that this is someone that I would want as a friend.  You say that you paid the stud fee first time around.  Then a small fee on return.  Which most people would have refused.

You ask for suggestions.  If it was me, there would be no puppy available, I wouldn't even want to find out who the so called friend is that wants one.  And there would definitely NOT be any return visit to view the litter - whether the stud owner takes umbrage or not.  You owe them nothing.  And, if she disputed that I would ask to see the proof of a promise that they are to have a pup.  They would not get any pup out of me, at any price.

i always use a stud contract and then everyone knows exactly where they stand , even to friends! but after being paid a fee , the stud owners should'nt expect anything  else from you