sorry if this is really dumb, but this forum is for advise so here go's.

right no plans for breeding my girl yet, but?

do you have to get a kennel name before you can register a litter?

or do you just need both parents to be KC, unedorsed, and registered to correct owners?

thanks

No, you do not need a kennel name but it helps when looking at pedigrees. That way you can immediately remember who you are talking about, and the breeding. Names without a kennel name (or affix) tend to confuse, especially in numerically large breeds.

No you do not need to have a kennel name to register a litter...

Thankyou, also, do you think it is wise to get a kennel name when you have only one bitch, in the future, i would love to breed my bitch once and spay her, i would then like to keep a puppy to show, i didnt really look into the show world until my bitch was around 13 months, which i think is a bit too old as she already has a few bad habits.

she does however fit standard and has a champion sibling.

i am however finding it hard to find a dog at stud from a good kennel, because my bitch has not been shown, and apart from the sibling, she hasnt got any other champions for another four generations, but she is from a kennel what did show, unfortunatley i am having a hard time getting in contact with her breeder for advise.

i have a Chinese Crested, and there is not very many studs around (especially with good lines and health tests)

thanks

> she does however fit standard and has a champion sibling.

Why don't you get back and do some ringcraft, which will help with some of the bad habits and get back into the ring. I don't think its too old to get a dog out. Some dogs aren't seen until older than that either. You never know how you will do unless you give it a good go..

As for ringcraft we can point you in the right direction if you aren't sure of any local to you

As for a kennel name I do think its a good idea if you are planning to breed a litter. It has to be initally agreed by the KC and then placed into the KC gazette for others to look at and put in any objections if they have any. Can take a number of months to get there for one to be agreed.

There is nothing to say that you can't show your bitch...as the saying goes...you can teach an old dog new tricks...lol.
Go to some shows where there are Chinese Crested classes & speak to some exhibitors...they should be able to help, either with getting you in touch with her breeder or advising if your bitch is good enough to be shown.

I didn't show my foundation bitch until she was nearly two (she also had a champion sibling).

A boy I bred wasn't shown until he was nearly two and became a champion.

Never too old to start, even if you don;t do well it will teach you a lot.

Personally unless I was planing to breed on a line I would not breed just a one off litter from my bitch, especially if it is a numerically strong breed.

The expense (health testing alone can be more than the price of a puppy)and responsibilities are huge, and if you just want another pup to show your far better off taking your current dog to shows where you will be able to watch the breed carefully, decide which lines you admire and get near the top of a waiting list for a puppy from a breeder whose stock you like and whose dogs (especially ones sold to others) do consistently well at shows.

This is a far cheaper option and more likely to be successful than trying to breed a good one yourself from a bitch whose lines you perhaps do not know enough about to find her the most compatible mate, to get the resulting puppy you hope for. 

It is not that common for a novice to breed a really good pup in their first litter unless they have had the luck of a top class bitch to start with, with the help of a really good breeder mentor..

When I bought my first Malinois, I was adamant I was NOT going to show her. I'd shown two other breeds and absolutely did not want to show another. When she was a week off being one year old, I did enter her for a show as so many people had asked me to. She wouldn't stand at all, just kept sitting as I had done a lot of obedience with her.

However that bitch is now a Champion and was Best of Breed at Crufts this year. :)

> This is a far cheaper option and more likely to be successful than trying to breed a good one yourself from a bitch whose lines you perhaps do not know enough about to find her the most compatible mate, to get the resulting puppy you hope for. 
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I agree, the person who bred my newest pup also has another breed, she has just had a single pup, which the purchase price doese not even cover the cost of the dog she used.

hiya, i also have chinese cresteds, althought i have never breed a crested litter the cost of breeding a litter can be extornanat and run into £1000's as you can see from another post of mine,(not cresteds) there are lots of lovely crested people out there, i would recommend you buy a show quality puppy and if you go to the right kennel you will also get a mentor, someone who can advice you on showing, health testing and breeding. There is also health testing to be taken into consideration, one of my girls failed her PLL test and therefore is being spayed, if you buy a pup from clear parents they will be clear by parentage. If you would like any further advice please feel free to email me and i will pass you on to responsible breeders who would guide you.

My first boy wasn't shown until he was 18 months old, as he had a lot of black in his coat which toook a while to grow out. By going out to the shows and learning from the other people in my breed I was able to get my boy his Stud Book No and eventually a top breeder in our breed sold me the pick bitch of a litter. She is now my  foundation bitch and many of the homes that I have lined up for her puppies are from people who have seen her around the ring.
Even just taking your girl along to the shows will get you known and people will usually happily give you advice as long as they feel you're serious about learning from them. I think that for the first few years I was probably known as the woman who couldn't handle her dog, as he used to stand beautifully whenever I put him on the table and then when the judge appeared he would sit down very rapidly. He will also bunny-hop over wet patches in grass and at the very beginnning never quite understood that he wasn't allowed to play with the dogs around the ring. It was a very big learning curve for both of us, but I'm very glad that we did it.
I would also say it's worth getting in touch with your dog's breeder to ask them for advice about putting her into a show, but if you can't get hold of them maybe try her sibling's owner if it's not the same person. If you can't do that, maybe contact a breeder whose dogs you like the look of and ask them for advice. If you ask people to be honest about your dog's prospects then they generally are!
Good luck with things.