could somebody answer a question for me if you show at a international show where CACIB I think that is what you call them .
so how many of these do you need to make your dog a champion .

Now if I've read this correctly (double checked with Swedish KC's show rules, and Sweden is an FCI country) a CAC is the same as a CC and turns the dog into a Champion of that particluar country if 3 are won under 3 different judges. A CACIB gives the title of International Champion and for that you need 4 certificates awarded by 3 different judges in 3 different countries. Some breeds  will also need other qualifications such as working tests to be able to gain the title but I am NOT sure if this is true of ALL FCI countries. (In Sweden many breeds cannot gain the title of Show Champion -there is no such thing as just a Champion- without that breed's particular working tests or character tests having been passed first. I.e. gundogs must have passed a gundog test, working and pastoral breeds generally have to pass a character test etc.) I'm sure somebody else will know.

There also has to be more than a year and a day between the first and last qualifying award, and exhibits under 15 months can't win CACIB's, so the youngest a dog can be to be an Int champion is 27 months and 1 day.

CAC's are FCI Countires National equivilents of CC - different countries have different requirements for how many CAC's are needed for a National title eg - 4 CAC's needed in Holland, 7 cac'S (Green Stars ) needed for Ireland. In some breeds a work certificate is also required - eg In Belgium you need both CAC's and a field trail award in a recognised FCI country to make up a Belgium Ch in various gundog breeds. Sweden is the same. 

CACIB's are International certificates, these are only issued to dogs over 15mths, 4 CACIB's are required in a minimum of 3 counties, with 12mth between 1st and last award. The CIE or Int Show Ch is then awarded. Additionally in some breeds (eg gundogs ) the Int Ch can also be awarded to dogs which have a work certificate - usually 2 CACIB plus a FT award will qualify.  
K

We were thinking of going to the international shows in southern Ireland .
In the uk we are on the Import register would we get class's at a international show as we are reconised by the fci

Ireland is an FCI country so check schedules as you may have classes at both National and International Ch Sh. I think Ireland is licenced for about 3 Int shows / yr but there are many more national shows.
K

Only 2 CACIBs from Ireland can count to Int title if it is a UK based dog, Irish dogs can gain all of theirs in Ireland so you still need another 2 from 2 different countries. Originally the KC decided to change the goal posts and said it had to be 4 from 4 different countries, unlike the rest of FCI and that the dog had to be a UK champion too, I guess that no longer applies as now they don't recognise the title at all!! That attitude seems a bit childish to me.

Well they aren't as bad as AKC who don't recognise anyones except their own in documentation.

so please put me straight it all gets a bit confusing as my dog is uk shch and has a cacib in southern ireland do i only need one more cacib to make him an irish ch or do i need more
sorry to be so dim

CACIB makes international champion, not a champion of any particular country...
So to use your CACIB you will need more of them from different countries and he will become CIB = International Champion

ok thanks
so can i make him an irish ch as well  as uk?

If he was already a UK Ch and you went BOB I think that makes him an Irish Champion ... contact IKC and ask ...

He has to be a UK Ch , not ShCh. 

as he,s my first sh ch after many years im afraid im not to well u7p in the difference
what is the difference?

Well Gundogs to become full champions have to get the show gundog Working Certificate

on law!!! hes great at everthing finding retrieving fetching BUT  he just LOVES to chomp on whatever he,s sent for teeth marks in whatever he retrieves
little b*****

Sh Ch is gained through wins and a points accumulation at Open Shows.  UK Ch title is gained through being awarded 3 CC's by 3 different judges at Ch shows.

Erm no Sh Ch ( Show Champion) is gained the same way as Ch (Champion ) is but is awarded to breeds that still require a working qualification to become a full champion such as gundogs and Border Collies. I believe you may be mixing it up with SH CM i.e show certificate of merit .