Why do people bring bitches in season over a country park then wonder why a entire dog chases after it. This is what happened this morning and when I had a go for him bringing it over there he said I should have my dog castrated and was very abusive to a point he threatened me and the dog.

If you should have your boy castrated, then he should have his girl spayed ;-) I don't see how he can have a go at you when he is the one that will end up wth a litter, not you. Or maybe that's what he is after? A cross bred litter :-( so that he can charge the earth for the pups>.

Stupidity.

There's too many numpties like this these days.... people who think it's their divine right to walk in-season bitches wherever and without a care in the world. All too common a subject on dog forums everywhere. Whatever happened to keeping the bitch in for a few weeks, which is what my family always did?

You only have to own an entire male to realise how stupid and potentially dangerous it could be, not just from the pregnancy angle, but from competing testosterone. The day before my lad was booked in for de-nutting we came across a woman with a collie bitch galloping about off-lead, who cheerfully admitted the girl was in full season Thankfully he wasn't interested, and there were no other entire boys about.

The thing about a neutered male is that he can still mate a bitch :-( The only difference is that she won't get pregnant if he had been done a while before the mating. ;-) But why should anyone neuter their male? It is not their fault if they meet up with an in season bitch.

> It is not their fault if they meet up with an in season bitch.

Well, precisely. It's up to the owners of bitches to look after their girls, or have them spayed. How many of us on here would take an in-season bitch to romp around the park as normal? But so many pet owners do.... it's lunacy. And then they say, well why don't you neuter your male instead?

My husband had this with his Jack Russell a few years ago,

He had been neutered as they had an entire elderly bitch they had never gotten round to spaying, and the vet felt it was better to neuter the young male.

Well one day he had him out and he ran up to and mated a bitch, the owner of which started trying to hit the dog. 

My other half went mad, as it was the guys own fault as how was he supposed to know the bitch was in season.  Just as well for the bitch owenr the boy was neutered.  He never lost his urge to mate a bitch.

> .....they had an entire elderly bitch they had never gotten round to spaying.....My other half went mad, as it was the guys own fault as how was he supposed to know the bitch was in season.

You'd think if it were elderly, the bitch owner would have learnt to recognise the signs over time!
Spaying and neutering are irreversible. Keeping an in-season bitch at home if you aren't willing to spay her, is just a few weeks of inconvenience a year. No wonder there are so many unwanted dogs in rescue - I bet everyone thinks they can make a few quid out of some bizarre cross, the weirder the better - these days. I've posted elsewheree but next week's Panorama documentary is focussing on the rescues that are overflowing with bull breeds, staffies and their crosses etc. as a result of this kind of irresponsibilty.

You've misunderstood. 

My OH owned an elderly entire bitch at the time they got the boy, so had him done.

The bitch he met in the park was not elderly as far as he knew, just in season.  They did have to keep him away from their own bitch wen she was in season as he had mated her when they didn't.

> You've misunderstood.

Sorry my dear, I was off on my rant about in-season bitches being walked....lol
I read back and yes, now I can see what you meant - my fault! :)

Is there a risk of pyo if a neutered dog mates a bitch in season?

No more than if an entire dog mated her, but probably not a great idea.

My boy nearly nabbed a bitch in the park once, he was trying to hump her as he often did with other dogs or bitches, and the 2 teenagers 'in charge' of her suddenly said 'oh, I think she's in season', so I said 'well you'd better grab her quick because he's entire and knows what to do!', and we all ran for the dogs! She was offlead too - idiots!

> idiots!

Unless that was their plan...

Had the same thing with my boy a couple of weeks ago at our local park.....I couldn't get him back, he sometimes See's her and they have a play, so i didn't think much of it at first!.....anyway i got him in the end, but i wasn't amused, though the bloke walking her didn't seem too bothered!!...I have had to stop walking there for a few weeks.

> Keeping an in-season bitch at home if you aren't willing to spay her, is just a few weeks of inconvenience a year.

My bitches would never have tolerated this at all.  My dogs have been used to 2-3 hours exercise a day and to restrict them to a garden would be mental & physical torture for them.   My dogs rarely use the garden to toilet in either.      I can see the other point of view in that some people don't keep an eye on their male dogs and let them run around chastising other dogs & bitches.  My own bitch gets pestered by some male dogs & her last season was over 2 years ago, people don't seem to think she should find it a problem with a large slobbering male pawing at her back & thankfully it takes her a very long time to retaliate to which the numpties say 'Ooooh she obviously doesn't like you'!

> My bitches would never have tolerated this at all.

What's the best compromise in your view? Interested, as a bitch will be my next dog and although I grew up with girlies, I take on board that things may have changed over the years :)

Keep your exercise to areas that dogs are not allowed off lead, so road walking.  You can cycle with the really active ones. 

If they have to they will put up with it, what do they do if kennelled for a fortnight while your on holiday, or what about dogs that spend 6 months in quarantine?

> If they have to they will put up with it, what do they do if kennelled for a fortnight while your on holiday, or what about dogs that spend 6 months in quarantine?

Well that was my thought in the first place.... There are many reasons why dogs may have to be kept housebound - injury, extreme weather, illness (owner or dog!). I had to keep my lad entertained in home & garden for 2 weeks this last winter; we had unprecendented snow (never snows here!) and the pavements & roads were solid ice for miles around. I barely went out myself, it was that dangerous. It was a case of risk assessment - if I took him out & had an accident, I could have spent months immobilised with a broken limb.

> If they have to they will put up with it, what do they do if kennelled for a fortnight while your on holiday, or what about dogs that spend 6 months in quarantine?

My last holiday was in 1992!

You get up early & you take them out in unsociable hours.

I must be a hardy soul.  I've never missed a day's dog walking even when choked up with 'flu, twisted knee, snow, etc.

>I must be a hardy soul.  I've never missed a day's dog walking even when choked up with 'flu, twisted knee, snow, etc.

Me too. I was astonished at how my lot (and there were 4 then, totaling about 100kg) walked so steadily as a group with me when I was learning how to use crutches the day after an operation!