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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / What to do - suspicious puppy enquiry?
- By celtic [gb] Date 25.07.10 21:37 UTC
Hi , i have had enquiries about pup's from a lady who, i know has left a deposit on a pup with another lady ...
She contacted me a while back but i gave her the ladies number i knew who had pup's coming and she has picked a pup and left a deposit , but she is now emailing me again for a pup . She has an address in Wales and uses two names .. Do you think i should warn the other lady about her or just keep my nose out ? Any advice appreciated ..thanks
- By Trialist Date 25.07.10 21:39 UTC
Personally I'd discuss it with the person you'd recommended her to. Why wouldn't you?
- By celtic [gb] Date 25.07.10 21:44 UTC
Don't want to make her feel i am trying to put her off ? Or scaremongering her ....
- By Trialist Date 25.07.10 21:48 UTC
If she uses 2 different names, etc, I think you should mention it to the other person. You've recommended someone to her, you're obviously concerned about the person's actions. If you mention it to the other person and they're not bothered, then that's up to them. But it does mean you've aired your concern and done your bit. If I was a breeder you'd recommended, I would want to know if you then had concerns about a person you'd forwarded to me :)  Whatever happens though, you will be clear that you'd raised your concern.

It may be that she's totally bona fide and is just keeping her options open of securing a pup, but I would worry about the need to use 2 different names.
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 26.07.10 06:56 UTC
I'm in agreement with Trialist.
If I was the breeder that you'd recommended I'd far rather if you'd found
out something of concern that you'd pass the information on.

That way further vetting of the person that is wanting a puppy can be done.
It may be that she is acquiring more pups from other breeders in a certain radius
you can starts asking questions of the breeders in your local area etc.

From these further investigations your friend may decide to return the deposit and
not let the lady have a pup.

At the end of the day at least she will have had a warning that something *may* be off
about the potential purchaser. It is then up to the breeder that has taken the deposit to
check further etc. Your conscience will be clear as you've warned her of your concerns.

At least then the breeder has had a fair chance of protecting her pups from a person that
*may* be acquiring a puppy under false pretences.

If they are happy with the answers that the purchaser gives then it's upto them.
You've done your bit.
- By suejaw Date 26.07.10 07:39 UTC
Celtic hjave you tried to google this woman and do some searches on her and her home address using all the information you have?
I'd be wary if someone had 2 very different names, maybe slightly different if only surname has changed - maybe going through a divorce etc? But I like you don't like the sound of this and why would you want 2 pups?
Protect your breed, do the research and contact this other breeder with your worries and any findings and then its up to them as to what they do about it. If it turns out to be a puppy farmer type person then a word needs to be put out to all breeders as they are likely to go elsewhere..
- By celtic [gb] Date 26.07.10 08:41 UTC
Hi , have spoken to her...She has googled and all she can see is a place in the middle of nowhere , so the ball is in her court now ... Thanks eveyone ..
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 26.07.10 08:52 UTC
I would simply report the facts as I know them. If I had a litter and someone else had information and didn't pass it on I would be dissappointed; it's up to the lady to make up her own mind but her decision may be influenced by what you know. :)
- By itsadogslife [gb] Date 26.07.10 10:14 UTC
Do you know what - I'd not only be reporting this to the other breeder, and if it was me, I'd be paying a surprise visit to their property if it was a puppy booked from my litter. This is why I wouldn't be taking deposits...

I met a nice family with a dog puppy of my breed once in Pets at Home, we got chatting, and she told me she was picking up a bitch pup the next week & was going to be breeding the two together as soon as they were old enough. Enough alarm bells!!!! As soon as I got home, I started calling around to see if I could locate the breeder of said bitch pup. In this situation, being a member of a breed club can pay dividends as most members would be very keen to help in a situation like this.

If you are a member of a breed club, would it be worth contacting somebody who lives nearby to this person if it's too far to visit? Likely that they may have heard of them if they are breeders. Worth a try.
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 26.07.10 16:18 UTC
Good for you Itsadogslife. I would hate to think that I could have prevented something like this. My hubby tells me that I can't right all the wrongs in the world but I say I can have a go at things I CAN change.
Well done you.
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 26.07.10 16:42 UTC
It's amazing what people will tell complete strangers when you start chatting to them in Pets At Home lol.

I can't see how any legistration is going to stop BYB, most people I've met with a bitch puppy automatically see pound signs in the future.
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 26.07.10 20:01 UTC
should have said legislation, brain melting because of the heat!!!!
- By MsTemeraire Date 26.07.10 20:28 UTC

> It's amazing what people will tell complete strangers when you start chatting to them in Pets At Home lol.


In my local one it's usually the staff...... pointing out their display of Cesar Millan's books, and talking about him like he was God.
- By itsadogslife [gb] Date 29.07.10 14:01 UTC
I would say the worst thing about the whole situation in the case I mentioned before was that we never did find out who had bred the pup she was about to pick up, and the only likely place which stood out, from the location she mentioned, was probably no better than a puppy farm!! I found they were advertising for bitches saying they would give them a good home on their farm etc... I was sorely tempted to phone them and offer them my (fictionary) bitch... "ooo and by the way, she's spayed!".

These people were very nice, had a lovely male puppy, but maybe they had absolutley no idea about pedigrees etc...

Pets at Home is always a good place to take a puppy for socialisation I find, all the animals/lights/people and who can resist the puppy!!!!
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / What to do - suspicious puppy enquiry?

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