I have a 8 1/2 month old bitch her dad was half sarloos wolf quarter inuit and quarter Czech wolf and her mum was an unregistered inuit. I did a little bit of research before we brought her but probably no where near enough and now want to find out as much about each of the breeds as possible so that I can give Maisie a good life. Also i would like to know if there are any tests that can be done to find out what percentage of each of the breeds she has? any information is welcome :)

Don't think you can really do a test to find out the percentage.  In America they do supposed DNA testing to advise on the breeds of dogs for crosses and I've seen some very weird breeds given for a dog that looks nothing or acts nothing like any of the said breeds.

You definitely need to hipscore and I'm not sure but maybe check out their heart as well, as I think some high murmurs have come up in these crosses.

What country did you buy her in?

The DNA tests are only as useful as the database the company has... if its not got the breeds your dog is crossed with on there, then it comes up with the next nearest match which might be a breed that in reality, has nothing to do with your dog..

So until their databases are complete and hold dna from a big sample for each breed they have... i think it is in all honesty a waste of money.

The only use dna can really provide at the moment is to identify parents/offspring... so youd need dna from the supposed parent dogs to prove they are the parents. Since their breeds are at best a mishmash.. at worst a flight of fancy on the breeders part.. (as is often the case with these wolf-a-like breeds) you wont really get any nearer...

Best I think to research the various breeds that are used in the Inuit dogs and in all the 'looks like a wolf' dogs... and then use what you learn there as and when you need it.

For a start do not treat her like a dog because she isn't one.  Trying to get her to interact like you would expect your average pet dog to do will end up a miserable life for her.

A good friend of mine that lives in France has Sarloos (he is very good friends with Sean Ellis) and thinks you should never cross a Sarloos with a Czechy.

I would personally contact a reputable person who knows the breeds well so you can give her the best life (possibly not the person who bred her as if they knew the breeds well they would never have crossed them).

My friends own a wood and have no neighbours for miles around so her Sarloos live a pretty free life, they get exercised 4 times per day for atleast and hour if not more each time, they run free on walks because they have the wood.  She never leaves the house without them (they really are pack animals) and when people visit (only a few visits throughout the year) the dogs decide whether they want to meet the visitors.  Both the owners have studied body language (and written about it in various magazines) so understand their Sarloos well.

Good luck with your girl :-)

> She never leaves the house without them (they really are pack animals) and when people visit (only a few visits throughout the year) the dogs decide whether they want to meet the visitors

What a bizarre life, to have your dogs dictate everything you do?

They are not dogs, they are wolves and she runs a wolf sanctuary - they left their life in England to do exactly this and have never been happier.

She can go out if she needs to but they are quite self sufficient and they live remotely.

Thanks for all of your comments :)

We brought her in the United Kingdom.

The reason I was wondering if you can get a test which tells you what types of wolf/dog she is...is because after buying her and doing a little more research i doute that she actually has any czech wolf in her as my research tells me that there are only a few of them in the UK and there is also a lady that claims she is the only person in the UK that has imported the czech wolf and she has only had a few litters of puppies and can tell you exactly who she sold them to. Also the fact that I have tried to contact the lady that i brought Maze off of a couple of times and asked her about Maisies parents and where she had brought her dad from and she hasn't replied to my emails.

I have been trying to find a breeder locally and not much luck yet but will keep looking. I have found a lady that breed Inuits and will try contacting her but from what I understand the inuit is a dog that has been bred to look like a wolf and the sarloos is a wolf cross GS and I find that most people that breed Inuits don't want to know when i mention that maisie is a cross.

Also do you know how much exercise we can give her at the moment as some people say she whould only be going for short walks (so that she doesnt get any problem with her hips in later life)and others say long walks. we currently take her out for a short walk ten min in the morn and a longer walk in the evening.

Oh and another question ..... does anyone know if this type of dog are known for having a double dew claw?

Think someone in my club has one, it's no more got wolf in it than I have, GSD/Husky yep, but can't see a wolf, yes it does look like one but in no way reacts anything like one.

I know almost nothing of these "Breeds" however I thought that a wolf/wolf cross needed a licience as a wild animal?
Correct me if I* am wrong.
Aileen

That's what I thought too, but this woman definitely hasn't and has just purchased another.  Wouldn't say that she's the ideal person to have one, not that she's bad with her dogs or anything but she's definitely not able to exercise them in the manner I would expect.

Defra have apparently clarified on the issue of the Sarloos and CsV wolfdogs and have declared that they can be kept without the need for a DWA license as they are sufficiently far removed from the wolf. Northern Inuits are just a regular crossbreed and have no wolf content at all...depending upon which version of events you believe, that is! ;-)

If youi have a pure Czech wolf or Saarloos wolf you do need a license for them but I don't need one for Maisie as the wolf has pretty much been bred out of her. I dont know the technical terms but best I can explain it is if you have a European wolf (wild) and cross it with a GSD this is called a Czech wolf and this would need a license, then if you mated the Czech wolf with another GS and repeated this process another 3 times (I think it is) then after the 4 generation you wouldn't need a licenses for the dogs/wolfs but you would for all of the others. This is what I understand from my research anyway please correct me if I am wrong.

Czechoslovkian wolfdog is breed recognised by FCI, no mixing with wolves have been done for over 20 years or so (could even be 30 years).
I don't know about licencing but I find it shear maddness how some people in UK breed and mix these dogs so if license is needed it is probably a good thing!
It is a very specialised breed and not for average pet owner who just wants to have a dog that looks like wolf.

what is FCI? Are you saying that the czech wolf is different to the Czechoslovkian Wolfdog? I am only going on information that i have found on the internet, like I said earlyer I am just trying to find out as much information about the different breeds as possible and seeing as the breed won't return my calls or emails i have turned to the internet to do my investigating :)

:) FCI is the "mother organisation"(in absence of better word) for pedigree dogs in Europe.
Most European Kennel clubs are members.
The official names for the two dog breeds that had wolf in the mix are Sarloos wolfdog* and Czeslovkian Wolfdog* ( or *wolfhound)

I do not know much about these wolf look-a-like mixes in UK but I do believe many actually have neither breed in the mix, even if they are sold as having "real" wolfdogs in the background, it is just marketing...
Good for you on doing research(even if little late :)), I'm sure you will find loads of info online.

As Noora said, the Sarloos and Czech Wolfhounds/Wolfdogs are established dog breeds recognised by the FCI (but not the UK Kennel Club). The Inuit (or Northern Inuit or Utonagan or Tamascan or British Inuit etc etc ad infinitum) is a crossbreed created from poor quality GSDs, Malamutes and Huskies.

Neither Sarloos or Czechs are recommended as dogs for inexperienced owners, as they are not the easiest dogs to own.

The various "Inuit" crossbreeds, despite being in existence for some 20 years now, are no nearer having a recognisable "type" or temperament of their own, and tend to inherit the tendencies and behaviour traits of the original dogs which made up the "breed" - so you might get one that, like a GSD is good off lead, or you might get one that like Mals and Huskies is not good offlead.

What you get when you mix up this cocktail of genetics, God only knows.........

I do not know much about these wolf look-a-like mixes in UK but I do believe many actually have neither breed in the mix, even if they are sold as having "real" wolfdogs in the background, it is just marketing...
I agree with what you have said and this is wat i am beginning to think about our dog, she is v.dog like and def has no trates of the czech wolf although almost everything I have read about the Saarloos wolf seems to match her behavour. I may try and drive back to the place I brought her from to get some answers from her breeder with regard to where Maisies parents came from. In hinde sight I should have done some more research before and asked the breeder the questions before we brought her but so far she has been the perfect companion for our family.

thanks for filling me in on what FCI is :)

> thanks for filling me in on what FCI is :-)

http://www.fci.be/presentation.aspx here is the fuller info on teh FCI

quote:

Introduction   

The Fédération Cynologique Internationale is the World Canine Organisation. It includes 84 members and contract partners (one member per country) that each issue their own pedigrees and train their own judges. The FCI makes sure that the pedigrees and judges are mutually recognised by all the FCI members.

The FCI recognises 339 breeds, Each of them is the 'property' of a specific country. The 'owner' countries of the breeds write the standard of these breeds (description of the ideal type of the breed), .................

This breeder sounds a bit suspect to me, i'm afraid to say it sounds like you have just a regular crossbreed/mongrel dog there, not that it matters, i'm sure she's lovely. What does she look like?

I really wanted to get a Czech Wolfdog a while ago but realised they were not the breed for me when I looked into it.  Anyway, I emailed this guy at www.ukwolfdogs.com and he provided what sounded like very genuine, knowledgable advice.  As I say I decided against the breed for me so I never met this man or had anything other than a couple of emails from him in response to my questions but he may be some one you might want to get in touch with.  Hope this helps.

Also your vet may be able to tell if you have a genuine wolf dog because as per the guy I mentioned above these dogs have inherited the mouth of a wolf and have larger stronger teeth than dogs so this may or may not be something your vet could tell?  They also have a very very high prey drive and are fast so watch out any squirrels/cats near where you walk!

Another trait I remember he told me that is common with the Czech, and is even stronger in the Sarloos I believe, is a wariness of strangers.  They seem to retain and instinctive wariness of people that are not part of the pack which I believe is quite different to huskys and malamutes (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'm not sure if the same is true of the Inuit cross-breeds.

Hope you get some good advice.

I do know someone from another part of the internet who actually owns a CSV (Czech wolf dog)
PM me if you think getting in touch would be a good idea, I do think she will be honest and helpful. She does not breed, and is sensible.