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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / bitch standing but stud dog not interested
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 23.03.10 13:20 UTC Edited 23.03.10 15:14 UTC
hi
i have a three year old small breed bitch who is on day 11 of her cycle. she is still bleeding, but will stand/flag her tail for the stud dog who at the moment is not really interested. i wanted to know if this is normal behaviour for a bitch to stand before shes ready? and is this why the studs not intrested in her at the moment? he pays her attention but has not tried to mount her even though she is very willing!!! and will even pester and chase him when he walks off. any advice would be very helpful. thanks
- By JeanSW Date 23.03.10 13:28 UTC
Yes, the little tart will flag and stand for him even if she isn't ready.  :-)  It's a bitch thing.  :-)

If he is an experienced stud, he will know his business.  One of my stud boys will give a cursory sniff, and not waste his energy if the girl isn't ready.

And many bitches bleed all the way through, even after mating, so it's really no indication for you.  Some girls are ready on day 8, others on day 19, so she is certainly no different to any other bitch.

Good Luck!
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 23.03.10 13:35 UTC
hi
thank you for your reply. do you think i should just keep puting her with the stud until he shows intrest? or will he get fedup with her flirty behaviour and be put off?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 23.03.10 13:41 UTC
How old is he? I'm assuming the stud dog is experienced, or is he a maiden? Is he (forgive me for wording this badly) a pet dog who's been scolded for humping in the past, or is he a showdog who was always destined for stud work? It could make a difference.
- By JeanSW Date 23.03.10 13:41 UTC
It really does depend on the male which way you try it.  You do need to be using an experienced boy with a maiden bitch.

And, before I get shot down in flames, and people tell me about the hundreds of maiden male/bitch matings they've witnessed - some of us are experienced in these things, and folk who aren't would be well advised to use an experienced dog and stud dog owner.
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 23.03.10 13:47 UTC
hi
no shooting down in flames from me lol. he is also three years old and is proven (sired 5 litters) he was a show dog as is my bitch both have done realy well. my bitch is maiden this is why i choose this stud. thank you very much for your help
- By Brainless [gb] Date 24.03.10 02:46 UTC
I have often found very natural girls pester males for mating a good few days before the male will mate with them, and have successfully had them have pups.

On the occasions this has happened the bitches were finally mated over a 3 day period, after which both lost interest.
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 24.03.10 07:17 UTC
hi
thank you for your reply, its day 12 today and i'm taking her over to the stud this morning so maybe we will be lucky today fingers crossed lol
- By LizandDogs [gb] Date 24.03.10 19:36 UTC
Depending on the breed, some are receptive later on, my bitch for example wasn't receptive until day 14 and she bled all the way through. If the stud knows what he's doing I'm sure you'll see results soon just be patient :)
- By white lilly [gb] Date 27.03.10 08:35 UTC
i dont think its down to the breed myself ,i think its down to each bitch...in my large breed my friends bitch didnt stand till day 24 i think she had 8 pups my girl stud on day 16 only 4 pups and our our girl stud on 13 and then 15 we get her scaned next week to see ,and all these girls still bled alot ,......
- By Emz77 [gb] Date 27.03.10 08:57 UTC
Have you thought about doing idexx? this will give you results of whether she is ready to mate or not if you are unsure? I know my bitch has followed the same days as her mum and her nan. Do you know when their fertile days were at all as this may help?
- By annastasia [gb] Date 27.03.10 10:04 UTC
Yes i'd go with emz and get an idexx test to see when she is ovulating, or stud dog wont waste his energy if they are not ready, good luck x
- By rocknrose [gb] Date 27.03.10 10:25 UTC
Standing and flagging isn't always reliable. I have a bitch that will stand and flag for males 365 days of the year. such a tart :)
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 27.03.10 16:09 UTC
well still no luck yet, we are at the vets tomorrow for the idexx test so hopefully will get some answers then. thanks for eveyone's help will let you's know how we get on.
- By white lilly [gb] Date 27.03.10 22:16 UTC
good luck dont loose hope could be a late ovulater like my friends girl x
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 28.03.10 13:16 UTC
yeh some good luck at last we have had a five min tie today day 16. my girl did really well was not distrested at all stood like a little tart lol will be trying again tomorrow. do you think i should still have the idexx test done or does this mean i dont need it any advice welcomed. thanks for everyones help
- By white lilly [gb] Date 28.03.10 13:43 UTC
sounds like there could be some pups in 9 weeks :) our girl was like this she didnt let the dog till she was ready we get her scanned on good friday
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 28.03.10 13:56 UTC
ooh i hope so puppies would be great will try her again tomorrow just to make sure lol white lilly hope all gos well for you fingers crossed
- By Brainless [gb] Date 28.03.10 20:36 UTC
I'd certainly go for at least another mating, with a day off between first and second if a long distance or mate over 3 days if able to travel easily.
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 29.03.10 09:03 UTC
yeh success another 7 min tie this morrning, will try for third time tomorrow, are these ties long enough to work? thanks scarlet
- By Brainless [gb] Date 29.03.10 09:43 UTC
Anything over a minute is great.
- By rocknrose [gb] Date 29.03.10 12:17 UTC
7 minutes is great, particularly if its raining :)
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 30.03.10 11:04 UTC
we had another sucessful mating today day 18 with a 20 min tie. we have had three ties now 1st = 5min 2nd =7min and todays 20 mins so done all we can lol hope it works. thanks for everyones help you'v been great. scarlet 
- By annastasia [gb] Date 30.03.10 11:11 UTC
Good luck Scarlet x
- By white lilly [gb] Date 30.03.10 22:00 UTC
yes the very best of luck :)
- By JeanSW Date 30.03.10 22:13 UTC
Pleased that things have gone well for you.  If she was that eager, sounds like you will be having the patter of tiny paws.  Good Luck!  :-)
- By scarlet245 [gb] Date 31.03.10 09:14 UTC
jeansw thanks for all your help with my posts. yes my little girl is eager lol i have an older neutered  male cavalier, and she is still pestering him. bless him he doesnt even know he's male, and does not know what to make of her flirty behaviour!!! he just looks at me as if to say sort her out please i'm to old for this. lol thanks again scarlet
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / bitch standing but stud dog not interested

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