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By Kash
Date 03.12.02 22:08 UTC
As you all know I have a GSD who is going on 9 mths old:o My problem is her jumping up at visitors not me- how do I curb/cure this?
Stacey x x x
By dizzy
Date 04.12.02 00:55 UTC
dont know -if you find something that works tell me---caseys a pain for it, :(
By climber
Date 04.12.02 01:29 UTC
same proplem here whatching for answers with baited-breath?
mine only do it to strangers or people who dont say STAY DOWN first when entering the house
:rolleyes:
karl
By BullBoxer4Life
Date 04.12.02 07:26 UTC
I had the same problem with my pup when he was a toddler as well. I didn't condone it when he was younger which was a big mistake because he is going to be a big guy. As a result, he reached 30 pounds and percieved jumping as acceptable behavior. I finally commenced training in an effort to eliminate the jumping. It worked for me and it might work for you! Here's how i did it and it's very simple:
Whenever he jumped, yanked his leash downwards and simultaneously said "no jumping!"
Eventually, i eliminated the yanking on the leash and only used to verbal command. It worked! However, it is important for your timing to be precise. You should yank downwards on the leash while he is still rising up through the air towards the visitor, not after he's already on the floor. Try to "nip the behavior in the butt" as it's happening.
I also decided not to reward with praise or treats if he has already jumped once or more. My rationale for this is that i didn't want him to misinterpret my correction as encouragement to try again, only better. I've noticed that whenever you praise a dog for NOT doing something wrong, he tries to do it AGAIN after you've praised! So i've come to the conclusion that they think we want them to try again with more determination whenever we praise for NOT doing something. Look at it this way. When you train a dog to sit, most people correct wrong responses and praise the right responses. How does your dog know that your are not correcting him because he didn't jump high enough? Or how does he know that you aren't actually asking him to sit before you praise for jumping? I like to withold all rewards unless the dog doesn't jump at all. This works for me. For you, it may not. You may have to amend the technique a little or maybe you need an entirely different technique altogether. It's just a suggestion. =)
Good luck and best regards,
Rob
By Francesca28
Date 04.12.02 09:48 UTC
My doggy club recommends raising your knee to hip level infront of you. This never actually makes contact with the dog but for some unknown reason (to me) she always drops to the floor and doesn't do it again (until the next couple of days or so). However EVERYONE in the household must do this and warn your visitors. It seems to work more effectively than shouting etc.
By Sharon McCrea
Date 04.12.02 09:54 UTC
Stacey one thing that I've found works to stop young hounds jumping up on me is simply to put my hands in my pockets. I don't know why it stops them, but guess it might be because if there are no hands there can be no pats. But I don't know how you'd use that trick with visitors :).
By steve
Date 04.12.02 10:11 UTC
It's not too bad with 'doggy people 'they understand I ask them to ignore him for 5 mins till he calms down a bit :) but it doesn't go down too well with in-laws ( mind you ,what does ? :D )
liz

The method I use is as soon as the dog goes to jump I step on the leash, this way the leash is correcting them not u and I don't praise because they pretty much correct themselves. As soon as they go to jump step on it, this way ur hands r still free and make the dog sit. When the dog can sit after the correction then praise. So far it's working for me. :)
By muddydogs
Date 04.12.02 12:06 UTC
I know of a few of different methods, the raised knee one hasn't worked for cookie though, you could try (as long as visitors are prewarned that is) as the dog goes to jump up to greet, turn away quickly with arms folded , the dog misses his target and get ignored at the same time, tell the dog to sit and only when it sits and is calm does it get stroked and fussed by you/visitor - this one is the one that worked on cookie, and of course there is my old Dad's method, which he used on all our GSD's whereby the dog jumps up and you grab hold of paws and don't let go - they absolutely hate it, they have got up but can't get down until you release them, they only did it a couple of times!!! hope this helps - Julie:)
By nouggatti
Date 04.12.02 12:54 UTC
holding onto their paws and letting them go when you want to worked for me too Julie
Theresa
By dizzy
Date 04.12.02 18:25 UTC
these ideas are great if theyre on a leader---and i dont have a problem that its me getting jumped on, try telling visitors to grab her feet , knee her etc :rolleyes:
By muddydogs
Date 05.12.02 08:01 UTC
hi dizzy, do you mean she doesn't ever jump at you, or you don't mind if she does it too you - just not visitors? We have recently had a disagreement in our household about this. my hubby was allowing cookie to jump up to greet him when he got in from work, and cookie was doing it more and more, if he was sitting down etc. I don't allow any of the dogs to jump up, ever, we have two young kids and I think this is a sensible rule that the dogs don't do it to anyone and then there is no confusion, how is cookie supposed to know he can do it to hubby but no one else? I don't know your situation so can only comment on what works for us. The dogs do not get attention when we come in or from the kids unless they sit. If the dog approached tail wagging etc, you immediately ask it to sit, only when it sits does it get any attention. With visitors we do the same, they don't need to be on a lead, just make sure the visitor is prewarned on what to do. If it comes to it, keep the dogs away until you have told the people what you are trying to do and you are enlisting their help to solve the problem. In the street, I can usually tell when people are about to come over to fuss the dogs, they look at you/dogs smiling etc and you can usually get to tell them before they just rush over and start to pat. I carry treats on me anyway, so ask the person to ask my dog to sit and give a treat. The object is that the dogs is then supposed to connect the fact that he/she only gets what it wants, pat/fuss etc when it is seated. It can be a bit of a pain (keep asking people) even if you have to spend a week or so 'setting up' people to help you out with it, but doesn't take that long one you start for the penny to drop. Once I pointed it out to my husband even he complies:D :D He had to stand up , if he was sitting and cookie jumps on him, just knocking cookie down/off, and tell him to sit. If I'm telling you whats 'old hat' to you and you don't feel it will help, I apologise in advance :D Julie:)
By Sharon McCrea
Date 05.12.02 08:14 UTC
Hi Julie, I teach some of the dogs to jump up on command and get down again when told to. I only use the method with the bright, agile hounds, not for thick or clumsy ones (a clumsy wolfhound hurts :) ). I start when the puppy jumping begins, kneeling in front of the pup, patting my shoulders and saying 'Hup!'. If the paws don't land on my shoulders I put them where they should be. Pups gets a cuddle, then is told 'Four Feet!' (meaning all four feet on the ground) at which I lift the front feet down until the pup gets the idea for himself. If the puppy jumps without the command he is told 'No!' and pushed down. Pups catch on to this very fast and its one of the things that once learned seems to stay ingrained. Its much harder work with adults but I've done it woith several, so maybe your husband could teach Cookie to do it this way?
By dizzy
Date 05.12.02 18:41 UTC
casey is like a coiled spring

--i didnt name her headcase for nothing!!! i clip her if she tries to jump up at me, so now she sort of twirls around back off me ,!! an odd time she'll rear up as though going to and saying something awful usually reminds her, -however with new people she isjust so pleased to see them, theres no stopping her :D , ive started to bring her in on a leash!
By mari
Date 05.12.02 22:41 UTC
Hey Linda anytime you get fed up with her you know what to do
Send her to me .
I could take all that for a dog like her . :)
By the way I loved her
Mari

I know someone just like that, also curly tailed, but grey. If I get the off command in qucik enough then it is fine, but it is always other people the jumping is for, as she knows I won't tolerate it.
Non doggy people, that she thinks she can get one over on are the best targets!
By Kash
Date 05.12.02 08:56 UTC
Dizzy that's my problem. I'll shove her off etc but how do I get friends and family to do the same:rolleyes: I need something that I can do or say to make her get down. And she runs round naked in our house:o No collar etc:D
Stacey x x x
By muddydogs
Date 05.12.02 11:08 UTC
Hi, Sharon, I'll certainly give it a go, I'll get my husband to try it out, as he likes cookie greeting him like this anyway, I just didn't want it to get out of hand, I can see that teaching the command and doing it on request will help with not automatically doing it when it is not required, and perhaps if he only does it to my husband, then it will be their 'thing'. the dogs know 'up ups' to jump onto something (like into the car , grooming table) so it shouldn't be hard to teach just a 'hup'. thanks for that!
We do a similar thing with digging now, as the dogs don't get the opportunity in the garden (thank god!)since we segragated it and their portion is concreted, I take them down the beach to dig in the sand! and they all know 'dig', I suppose it could help if you didn't wish them to dig in the garden - as they know what the command means , I would imagine they would then know 'no digging'! or am I crediting them with too much intelligence? what do you think? Julie:)
By Sharon McCrea
Date 05.12.02 11:27 UTC
Hi Julie, I started that way of dealing with jumping after I had to teach a deerhound to bark on command (its not easy to get a deerhound to bark, full stop :) ). I used the method Ms Hartley described in her book and when I was re-reading it I remembered that she'd said once you've taught barking on command, its easy to teach shutting up too. I tried it and it worked (but not on the communal dawn & dusk howl-in :) ) so I gave it a go on a young hound that had me balck and blue - and that worked too!
I don't think your dogs would respond to 'no digging' now but suspect that it would be relatively easy to teach them what it meant. I think it would if they go into the garden individually, but with my lot I'm resigned and just try to avoid breaking my ankle in the potholes too often :).
By Stacey
Date 05.12.02 12:01 UTC
Stacey,
You can train her to stay in a sit or a down position when strangers or guests enter the house. Put your fingers or hands between her shoulder blades, with a little downward pressure, and tell her to sit and then to stay. You can give her a treat after you release her with an "okay".
When she does this well with just you and the family as distraction, put her in the sit-stay or down when you have guests or strangers approach the house. Suggest you do this with a lead initially, make a loop and slip it over her head quickly, you do not need a collar (you can keep the lead by the door) as it's easier to get her back into the stay if she breaks too early. If that's not possible, you can always give her a little poke between the shoulder blades to remind her to stay down if it looks like she's on the move.
I think a sit would be better - if she's real excited than being on the ground would probably only add to it, as she's farther away from the "action."
I expect some people would not appreciate a GSD jumping up to give them a smooch, so before one or the other has a traumatic experience, it's a good idea to train her to keep all four paws on the ground.
Stacey :-) (the other one)
By Dallover
Date 05.12.02 22:18 UTC
Hi
We had a dalmation who did the same, we cured him quickly by turning our bodies so that he missed, sometimes hitting the wall instead. He soon got fed up and decided it was safer not to jump.
He was three when we got him (a rescue) and so you can teach old dogs new tricks.
regards
Jackie
Ebony was and still is a pain with this sometimes.
The way I dealt with it - i have a long hall that leads into my dining room - i would ignore her till i got in the dining room and she had managed to sit (not very still but hey can't have everything) - when anyone comes in now - me the kids or other people - she does the same - she waits - the only problem i have now is the walk from the door to the dining room - she sort dances around in circles till i get there - pain with loads of shopping and can't see me feet - but at least she isn't jumping up
Nikki xx
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