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Topic Dog Boards / General / insurance & training
- By nesstaffy [gb] Date 04.03.10 23:04 UTC
hi ppl 2 queries plz 1st one being can any body give me some advice on insurance as there is so many different ones its confusing plus as will being showing and breeding in the future do i need a special one or any one as long as fully comp as want third party thanx in advanced.And the second one is iv been reading the perfect puppy and came across some hand signals i was wondering if u cud reccommend a book with more info on hand signals as my son is autistic and doesnt tlk but is doing sign language at skool so need 2 learn more as want 2 include him in with training the new puppy n mayb help him tlk if only wiv the dog hope ne one can advice uv been all helpful in the past posts iv done sorry 4 rambling n spelling thanks again :)
- By Tessies Tracey Date 05.03.10 00:52 UTC
Breeders insurance, I would imagine, would be a bit different to common or garden pet insurance.  When I used to show, I had 'normal' pet insurance, nothing out of the ordinary.
If memory serves, the Kennel Club offer breeders insurance.  As I don't breed, I'm sure someone who as more knowledge in this area can let you have some information.
Though I'd concentrate on getting pup home, socialised, trained and PHPv tested first and foremost ;)

Pet insurance comes in two main different forms.

There is insurance that can cover an illness for it's lifetime, i.e. if a dog contracts a serious long term illness, the insurance will cover cost to a certain amount for the full length of that illness.

There is insurance that only covers only for the period of the insurance policy, usually one year.  So, again, if the dog contracts a serious long term illness, the insurance will only cover for the year.

I've had a bit of a trawl through the 'net, and can't seem to find any books with regard to teaching sign language to a canine.  However, I would imagine that with the right training to begin with, the dog will pick up signing quite well.
I think you'd do as well to have a good training book (or go to classes) and then adapt to the correct British Sign Language hand signals from there.  That way you can still train the dog vocally as well as visually, but at the same time using BSL so that the dog learns this too along the way.

For example, one of my Staffords in particular is very good at the sit/stay command, which I can initiate with a hand signal only (although it isn't a BSL signal!).

How about having a word with the BSL?

http://www.british-sign.co.uk/index.php

HTH
- By furriefriends Date 05.03.10 09:31 UTC
I use a certain amount of signing with my gsd,originally taught to me by trainers some years ago when I had my first dog. Also you could try contacting an apdt trainer in your area  google http://www.apdt.co.uk/and have a chat with them.  We had a deaf dog in our group and he learned by signs I cant see that it would be problem and would be great to help you boy communicate with your dog and build his self confidence.
- By dogs a babe Date 05.03.10 09:45 UTC
A dog will quite quickly learn to 'read' your body language whether you give clear hand signals or not.  For instance, in the right circumstances both of mine  will sit whenever I put my hand in my pocket (I regularly recall and treat my livestock chaser to ensure he watches me not the horizon - and the other dog learnt this behaviour by observing and copying). 

I open both arms on a long recall to get them zooming in faster which I think is an accepted hand signal but I'm fairly sure I do others that only my dogs would recognise.

If you go to a good training class with your pup they'll help you to develop hand signals to teach your son.  It's also worth remembering that most pups learn to follow/watch hands that hold treats thus a slowly raised hand with a treat in will generally encourage a 'sit' as your pups eye goes up their butt goes down!  An observant dog will soon associate any signs/body language with what comes next - hence one of mine scarpers if I go to his medicine cabinet - so I'd say that you could decide what movements/signals are easiest for your son and you can train to those if it helps.

Insurance - my advice would be to go for a good lifetime cover.  You don't want to discover your dog has a long term condition for which you are only covered for 12 months or up to a £ limit.  
- By Goldmali Date 05.03.10 10:26 UTC
Tessies Tracey is right, it is only the KC insurance that offers cover for breeding, all other insurances excludes anything to do with breeding.
- By nesstaffy [gb] Date 05.03.10 11:16 UTC
thanks for that info about insurance i understand about concentrate on getting pup home and socialising just want to try and cover every aspect (fore warned is fore armed)in theory lol.have spoken to the breeder and mother is upto date with all tests including phpv.thanks for the website will defiantly have a good look thro iv spoken to my sons teacher and they r sending me diagrams of some signs so will be some help and having a meeting wiv a trainer for ringcraft and classes so may be some useful tips thanks again 4 the advice nessa
- By nesstaffy [gb] Date 05.03.10 11:27 UTC
thanks dogs a babe have done wat u suggested bout tlking to a trainer as checking the classes before get pup so should be helpful.i know you can use your own signs my nan did this wiv her own dog i just dont want to confuse my son to much wiv his learning at school so have also asked about some lessons or diagrams from his teacher. thanks i never realised so many different types of cover will deffiantly look for life cover many thanks in every ones advice i appreciate it so much thanks nessa
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