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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / will it ever stop?and how......
- By Romside [gb] Date 05.02.10 17:01 UTC
My male rott is three years old hes not been in a crete for years but has to sleep in the dining room with no bed nothing.he will chew it.he will chew my wall by the back door just rests his jaw a scrapes it along the wall.shoes boots tools wallpaper CLOTHES the stair acrpet the metal gate.and today ive had it it has to stop.hes an absolute darling but the chewing is so upsetting.i want to be like everyone els and have dogs that dont have to be locked away.Lola is a youngster and its expected to steal something and take it to her bed,im ok with that but not him.he dont always do it just pot luck when he does or dont you know?

pleeease tell me im doing something wrong so i can trust him out of the dining room during the day or at night.someone mentioned putting a muzzle on him at night or when im out.anyone say this is ok im not sure myself.
please im desperate now.  :-(
- By Gemini05 Date 05.02.10 19:00 UTC
i have a wall chewer, she is 2 years old, i used to have to shut her in the utility room, but now i can give her the run of down stairs with the others as i give her empty plastic bottles with biscuits inside it and also real bones with fillings inside, it certainly works for her! If i need to pop out i give her the plastic bottles and when its bed time i give her the bone! We have got into a good routine now, and its one less stress sorted! Maybe this would work with your boy x :)
- By suejaw Date 05.02.10 19:44 UTC
I've had the wall chewing too. Same breed as Gemini.. One grew out of it and the other only did a few times and then stopped.. But we had huge holes right down to the plaster, also had the carpet chewed too, probably a large number of other things too, oh yes my passport(lost a holiday due to that), but we are over it. My boys get bones with filler or a pyramid with dog kibble in it.. Anything else they can chew on, they love knuckle bones etc..Do you think he maybe doing this out of boredom?
- By mattie [gb] Date 05.02.10 21:16 UTC
How much excercise is the dog having? he may need extra challenges he may be bored.
- By Romside [gb] Date 05.02.10 21:25 UTC
they get out every day.i do play games with them its more my hobby than theirs really,i like doing new things id love to try agilty with em both but cant find one near me at all.im in romford essex incase u know of one.its not everyday he does it its only here and there.i cant give him a bone cos bella will steal it and she will bark from the other side of the gate until its opened i cant risk that while im out lol.

and as for the plastic bottles are they just normal 2ltr coke/water or lemonade bottles? id try that i think that would keep bella amused on her bottle and long enough to ignore the fact hes got one.any idea on the lids though,glue them on or .....what.i think glue wouldnt be good in dogs mouth but what if lid pops off lol???

please keep replys coming ill try anything.
- By Romside [gb] Date 05.02.10 21:27 UTC
p.s thanks for the replys ive had so far makes me feel better its not just me with an aduly dog doin/done it.
- By rocknrose [gb] Date 05.02.10 21:33 UTC
I had a dog that used to strip wallpaper. He made a terrible mess of the hall. So when I was replacing the carpet with wood flooring, I continued it up the wall and stopped at the dado rail. Sounds odd I know but it really looked OK and most important stopped him chewing the walls overnight.
- By Gemini05 Date 05.02.10 21:45 UTC
yes your normal 2 litre plastic bottles, remove the lid and the plastic ring seal around the top of the bottle, put a couple of handfuls of dog biscuits in the bottle and there you go.! :)
- By mattie [gb] Date 05.02.10 21:50 UTC
I would imagine getting out every day is the  very least the dog needs a dog like a Rottie is a big acive dog they need miles walking usually with the right amount of excercise a dog would not be chewing walls or plastic bottles !!
You can practise agility be improvising  a plank of wood on two  upturned buckets etc for jumps  hiding toys for the dog to find things to challenge the brain of a clever dog
- By ali-t [gb] Date 05.02.10 22:02 UTC
my rott boy has taken to chewing skirting boards and door frames so I have been scooshing them with the anti bite stuff but its not making much difference.  I live in a new build house and the skirtings and door frames are made of compressed paper with what looks like a wood veneer over the top.  It didn't take him long to get past the veneer and I now have what looks like paper mache oozing out one door frame.  You are not alone!
- By Romside [gb] Date 06.02.10 08:50 UTC
matte,i see your concern but im sorry mate i disagree with you that they need miles and miles of walking.no mine dont.theyre very fit at the weight they should be and i work bloomin hard to keep them the way they are supposed to be and getting exactly what they need.all ways!!

excersize is not the problem or id have done something about that before asking.i do have the odd few bits ive bought cheap on the internet for agility bits but i mean a club,somewhere we can do it as a hobby.with my bitch mainly as shes the one who wants to work.

as for hiding toys I DO,unfortunatley you cant pop you haed in and see how i live with my dogs.they are my hobby i love my dogs to bits and we play all the time,so much so matt gets the right ump.....apparently i spend more time with the dogs.
i cant see how you can say they wouldnt be chewing,well i suppose they wouldnt would they they'd probably be shattered.
- By Romside [gb] Date 06.02.10 08:51 UTC

> You are not alone!


> my rott boy has taken to chewing skirting boards and door frames


oh dear another one it must be something in the paint cos my lad loves a skirting board lol
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 06.02.10 09:06 UTC
It sounds like he is bored or anxious when you are not there. I had a wall chewer too, same breed as Gemini and Sue - she has stopped now though as she is almost 6 :-D, must be something about Bernese and plaster :eek: . I've also had one that chewed books, walls, facings, skirtings, metal blinds and chewed his way out of a metal cage - had to be seen to be believed! This was a medium sized breed too - we stopped it by letting him lie at the door we left by, as long as he was there he was fine, lock him in any other room and you came home to devastation. My setter adores plastic bottles, has been said - empty bottle, take off lid and plastic ring and let them play - Treacle doesn't even need treats in hers, she just loves to chew and pounce on it!

Good luck, it can be soul destroyiing when you come home to yet another chewed mess, but remember, he isn't doing it to get at you, he is simply finding something to do - maybe it started because he was anxious and now it has become a habit, breaking the habit might take a while but you can do it.
- By Romside [gb] Date 06.02.10 09:15 UTC
thank you Dakkobear.
i know hes not doing it to get at me bless him.maybe your right about being away from me lets tell you this.he follows me EVERYWHERE im not kidding.the others will follow for a bit but he will stay by me for hours.like i am now hes at my feet the others are asleep in dining room.if i have a shower he will bang the door to come in,he will pant and pant because its hot in there but wont leave,i weeded the garden the other day after cleaning out back and im on my knees with this green knee cushion and hes crawled along with me,laying down when im weeding and crawling when im moving.this boy is so loyal.he will lay and look at me,we play an emence amount of games he loves it maybe he cant stand being away from me.right im off gonna try the seperation anxiety trick.
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 06.02.10 09:24 UTC
My destroyer - the one that chewed his way out of the cage in less than an hour- use to be a velcro dog around the house too - used to follow me to the toilet :eek: . Outside he would turn into a typical spitz and disappear!
- By Romside [gb] Date 06.02.10 09:38 UTC

> Outside he would turn into a typical spitz and disappear!


lol lol

yes troy follows me to the loo and will sit outside the door.
tart he is. lol
- By JeanSW Date 06.02.10 11:49 UTC

> my rott boy has taken to chewing skirting boards and door frames so I have been scooshing them with the anti bite stuff but its not making much difference.


I recognise this one!

My eldest Bearded Collie always chewed all around one particular door frame when I went up to bed at night.  It's an old house, and where central heating was put in, the pipes were channeled up the wall and through the ceiling.

She never chewed the wooden frame around the pipes, but it was so close to the door, the pipes rattled while she chewed the door frame.  As the pipes come under the bedroom floor (lovely and warm to stand on) the noise would keep me awake at night.

In desperation, I painted all of the frame thickly with Colman's english mustard.

She loved it!  Would lie licking and salivating with a look of total pleasure!  She eventually grew out of it as she matured.
- By universalady Date 06.02.10 19:22 UTC
You could try wiping anti nailbiting solution on the areas which are more prone to being chewed. I did this when my youngest one took to chewing the bottom stair, along with praising when she stopped and calling her to me it worked, but I think some of it was down to a phase which she grew out of aswell
- By Carrington Date 06.02.10 20:22 UTC
Dogs generally chew for 4 reasons, teething, (well past that one) stress and anxiety, boredom, or lack of stimulation and exercise, which causes them to make their own entertainment.

Teething and boredom you can fix with a kuckle bone very easily, your Rotti may well have a lot of attention from you and when you are gone he doesn't know what to do with himself so turns to 'destroy mode' to occupy himself. The plastic bottle may well be a good idea, but I have a little niggle if he is left alone with it could he chew it to pieces in trying to get to the biscuits? Could he swallow the plastic? Rotti's have powerful jaws it wouldn't take much to disintegrate the bottle.

He may not, it's not something I have ever tried but if your not there maybe a knuckle bone would be safer for him to have a good grind on and keep him occupied whilst you are not there.
- By Romside [gb] Date 06.02.10 21:02 UTC
i appreciate your thoughts on the bottle and i have thought about it too.

On the knuckle bone ive left him at home before with knuckles postmans legs pigs ears and the pig leg things you can buy...one bella will steal his bone after shes done with hers and he will just give it to her so if i close her behind the dining room gate and him begind the kitchen gate she will bark and bark and bark to get his toy/chew/bone where i dont think she'd feel the need to take something that doesnt smell so good to her.
ive been looking all day on and off at agility classes maybe i do need to do somethin different with him,he may like it.i know i would.he jumps will weave and goes esily through the tunnel,he loves it.just never tried a (i forget the name of it the triangle ramp thing).
they seem to be in the day though i cant do day time until september.
i just dont know to be honest they all get the vet treatment they need the decent diet a good home loving parents (lol) and toys gallore, clearly im doin somethin wrong :-(
- By suejaw Date 07.02.10 09:53 UTC
I can't give plastic bottles to mine, regardless of treats in them they chew the bottles to pieces and small bits of plastic everywhere, hence why they won't have them past baby puppyhood.
Most of our agility classes around here are evening classes, have you been on agilitynet website to see if there is anything else near you?
I'd love to go back into agility as my boy loved it, but he got far too excited and fell off the high beam and jumped back on again, which is about 4ft and injured himself which took him out of that for good and also showing for most of last year :-( He is fine now, but cost me a fortune in hydro sessions.
- By Romside [gb] Date 07.02.10 12:10 UTC
oh bless him u must have been so worried :-(
- By Heidi2006 Date 08.02.10 18:52 UTC
You can buy treat balls that have variable sized openings you put treats or their normal dry dog food in and they have to push them around to get the treats/food out.   It stimulates mentally and makes meal times last longer.  I used to give breakfast this way to one of mine [very greedy girl] to make it last longer.  A word of caution - it could cause problems with 2 dogs if left out when you're not there - but certaihly no more so than a plastic bottle and much safer.  Plastic can become very hard and sharp and if a dog eats it could cut their insides.
I do let my dogs play with plastic bottles though - one in particular loves them and will find them on walks if I haven't taken a ball but I wouldn't let them play with them unsupervised and def. not when broken.

If there's a bit of separation anxiety going on have you tried giving a little less attention when your there?  I know with my 2 when my son gets up in the morning - a bit before me now on a weekday [amazing] the digs don't bother about him and don't fuss cos they know he won't do anything with them.  When I get up it's a completely different story...  they know they're going to get out/food/fuss etc. 
Heidi, my food fanatic gets oh so excited at feed times but has learned to get her bone to chew on to stop her 'going barking mad'.  With the 2 of them I can't give exciting bones [they can argue at times] but give Nylabones that are god to chew but not too high value.
- By Romside [gb] Date 08.02.10 19:19 UTC
yes good idea i got the kongs out of the toy box and filled them up with mashed down lamb roast left overs and froze them over night,they been quiet all morning.so shall give them those when i am busy or if i have to go out.i stuffed it with kong treats as well as the mashed up food.
thing is they have to be seperated cos bella is a moody moo.
- By BarkingMad16 [gb] Date 08.02.10 19:33 UTC
How long is he left for? If its only for an hour or two why don't you crate him again with a bone so he can have it for himself? My concern would be he may chew through something electrical and hurt himself.  If he is used to a crate he will settle nicely in one for short times and you can relax when out and not worry what you are coming home too. 
That's what I would do. :-)
- By Romside [gb] Date 08.02.10 20:02 UTC
i dont worry about electricals the room theyre in doesnt have any.the room has a grooming table a king size thick bed quilt blanket thing across the floor.three dog beds and a crete for maggie.oh and the toy box.

i go to take kids to school at 8:30 (mine start at 8.30)

come home spend until half 12 at home when my youngest starts his afternoon nursery.

pick kids up at three ......go to local shop get dinner food and come home the longest im out is when im WITH the dogs over the feild or forest in the afternoon.
i might visit my mum one day and that will be on a thursday afternoon after takin mikey to school, i leave at half 12 and im back everyday never after 4!always before.!!
he only chews every now and then but still annoying.
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