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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / burns & puppies
- By madogz77 Date 26.01.10 14:57 UTC
hi there, i have always reared puppies on arden grange and extras( raw meat,egg & nature diet etc). but i recently bought a lovely new puppy who was reared on burns, now the first day was fine, solid poo etc, ive now had him for 3 weeks and the poor chap had the runs really badly, to the extent he also had blood visable in what was coming out :(
he's been to the vet and is now on wet food ( natures harvest) after a few days on science plan meat, plus antibiotics, which is all helping to clear him up. in himself he is fine, now the last time i weaned him back over a few days using the burns from the breeder, and bang,  projectile poo once again! 
has this ever happened to anyone else? it seems odd it should do it as its known for being a good food for sensitive dogs? he's back on small portions of wet food, and i'll be putting him onto arden grange this time to see how he fares on that.....

any other suggestions of anything it can be? he is fine and dandy in himself, playing with my other dogs and playing tuggy using the cats tail etc!
- By Penster [gb] Date 27.01.10 15:23 UTC
Hi,

I've reared my dog on Burns Puppy food and I am still feeding the adult version to her now. I never had any kind of problems whatsoever with this food. I tried out Eukanuba before moving to Burns and this wasn't good at all. Her furr felt all greasy and she developed dandruff. So I tried her on Burns and she was absolutely fine with it. What sort of breed is the dog? Some breeds have very sensitive tummies. Did the vet not suggest any possible cause?
- By madogz77 Date 27.01.10 15:48 UTC
sorry i should have mentioned he is a border collie, now 10 weeks old, only one in the litter that seems to be having a problem, yet we kept him on the same food?!
its very puzzling, im gradually introducing some of the a/g puppy now along with the meat, and so far so good! pups ive had over the last 15 years have never reacted to moving etc in this way, so i dont think its that, we're convinced it has to be the food, we'll try the a/g along with the meat until next vet appt and see what she thinks then, regarding his weight etc.

my next dilemma is he is due his wormer and im reluctant to give it ( panacur liquid) while he is only just getting back to normal!
- By JeanSW Date 27.01.10 15:55 UTC
I have a Border Collie that had the squits for 8 months, going backwards and forwards to the vet.

I bought a small bag of every sensitive food that I could find, from every price range.

Burgess Supadog Sensitive hit the spot.  He has the best poos ever.  So, even with pricey food, it's no good if it doesn't suit.  Rest of the gang on RC, and Solo on Supadog - but you just have to feed what suits each individual dog.  He does have wet food added, but again, the only thing that suits him is Chappie.
- By Penster [gb] Date 27.01.10 15:56 UTC
mine's a border collie as well. it is very strange but try the other food and see how it goes it might solve the mystery. if it was me i'd wait with the worming for a few days until his tummy has settled a bit better. might not be ideal with other dogs around but i'd be a bit cautious don't want to upset his tummy even more...
- By Moomins [gb] Date 27.01.10 17:54 UTC
I reared our last litter on Burns and had terrible problems with the pups having the runs on and off, I lost count of how many tubes of Pro kolin I got through!! I had the pups on Chicken and rice on and off as per the vets instructions..it was a nightmare I wouldnt raise another litter on Burns again..I have since read on other threads/posts that other people have had similar problems with burns along with dogs loosing weight also which I have also found. The only two foods I would use now is either Orijen or AG given with tripe or AG moist. 
- By Jen [gb] Date 27.01.10 22:50 UTC
I have a small breed (approx 8/10 kg when adults) and feed my adults and rear my puppies on Burns Mini Bites without a problem. 

Have used it on my last 3 litters and they have all been fine.
- By Floradora [gb] Date 28.01.10 09:37 UTC
Have used burns on golden litters for the last 8 years without any problems.
- By Tanya1989 [ir] Date 28.01.10 12:06 UTC
ive always got on fine with burns
- By LoisLane Date 28.01.10 20:47 UTC
I like burns, i think it is a good brand, but my dogs will not eat it, whatever i mix it with, it will not temp them, so i gave up on it!
- By dogsdinner [gb] Date 29.01.10 17:43 UTC
It could just be conincidence that it is the food, could be many things worms, giardia, camplyobacter etc.,  I would consider taking a faecal sample to the vets and having it tested.  All of the aforementioned can cause a secondary bacterial infection of the bowel which could cause diarhorrea.
- By cavlover Date 05.02.10 11:46 UTC
I used burns mini bites a number of years back for a couple of litters (different breed) and always found it made them loose, I also found they tended to eat the poo too and discovered I was not alone in experiencing either problem. Needless to say I stopped using it. It was always ok for my adult dogs (adult chicken and rice), but I felt it kept them a little too lean for my liking.
- By Wirelincs [gb] Date 06.02.10 08:53 UTC
I stopped using Burns a few years to wean puppies for this very reason. As soon as I increased the quantites by the slighest amount they went loose and then watery. This constant, stop start, dire rear caused intussuception in one puppy requiring two life saving ops.

Diane
- By NDQ [gb] Date 08.02.10 21:51 UTC

> I used burns mini bites a number of years back for a couple of litters (different breed) and always found it made them loose, I also found they tended to eat the poo too and discovered I was not alone in experiencing either problem. Needless to say I stopped using it. It was always ok for my adult dogs (adult chicken and rice), but I felt it kept them a little too lean for my liking.


A couple of years ago, I knew a lady who owned a pup that had been weaned on to Burns. She had exactly the same problems! He had diarrhoea on and off all the time, he also was extremely lean with no substance to him. His ribs felt like a toast rack even though she was feeding him over the recommended amount for his breed/age! We advised her to switch on to Nutro mixed with Nature Diet, as that's what we were feeding our puppy on at the time (Same breed and same age). The change in him was remarkable and to topped it off, he won his first RCC a couple of weeks later! :) I have never liked Burns!
- By Blue Date 09.02.10 08:40 UTC
Firstly I think it is a myth about it being particularly good for sensitive tummies

Another wee Thing even though I don't like burns is if the puppy was ok when you first got it and now isn't I would say there is a big chance your over feeding it.  Lose stools esand streaked stools are all signs of over feeding. 
- By madogz77 Date 09.02.10 09:23 UTC
hiya thanks for all the replies, we have now moved him over to arden grange which i use for all my own litters , mixed with naturediet or natures harvest, and he is doing fine, he is a nice size, no longer skinny, and his poo is now normal. so my vet is happy it was either the food or me over feeding... although going by the minimum amount recommended it may have still been too much for him. but we have turned a corner and can now at last start training!
- By annastasia [gb] Date 09.02.10 10:43 UTC
Thats good news madogz, i have never tried burns,
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